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James, Attached are the slides for 802.18. I took the scope and duties directly from the Charter. Will that do for a summary? As regards the statement on which of the following complementary activities is appropriate I made a slight edit on number 2 to make a better fit with the RR-TAG. Let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Mike -----Original Message----- Mike Thanks for the info, could you add a short summary of it to your slides that you need to submit to me? Thanks James Gilb On 04/09/2015 09:05 AM, Michael Lynch wrote: > Pat and James, > > The RR-TAG charter was approved by the "IEEE 802 LMSC SEC, July 2002". I'll try to find the minutes from that meeting when I get back here to my office later today. > > In May, 2014, the RR-TAG reviewed the charter and found it to be
> correct. A link to the charter can be found on the 802.18 webpage, > > Best regards, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James P. K. Gilb > Sent: 9 April, 2015 09:58 > To:
STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Review of subgroups > > Pat > > Well, the good news is that each of the chairs would only be required to find their own scope motion. > > Mike, I am pretty sure, knows the document we used to approve 802.18 as well as the date when it was approved. > > In any event, I am not going to chase them down. > > Going forward, we will review and, IMHO, reaffirm the scope yearly, hence the motions should be easy to find going forward. > > James Gilb > > On 04/08/2015 04:28 PM, Pat Thaler wrote: >> The motions for the IETF and, I think, ITU subcommittees were last year so they should be easy to find and reference. >> 802.24 we just approved a change to their scope so that motion should be easy to find. >> >> 802.18 would be very difficult to unearth - that was formed years ago. >> >> Pat >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James P. K. Gilb >> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:41 PM >> To:
STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Review of subgroups >> >> Geoff >> >> The scope is the scope that was assigned to it by the EC. I won't
>> stop anyone from going back through the minutes to determine what the
>> motion was that formed the group. >> >> James Gilb >> >> On 04/05/2015 08:35 PM, Geoff Thompson wrote: >>> James- >>> >>> It seems to me that (e.g.) the scope should be something more authoritative than just what the WG Chair says it is at the time of the survey. >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:50 PMPDT, James P. K. Gilb <gilb@ieee.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Geoff >>>> >>>> That would be fine with me. After this, the subgroups could reference the previous review date by the EC. >>>> >>>> Also: With respect to membership, what I meant to ask for was how memberships is determined for the subgroup. For most of them standing committees, it is like a study group, everyone in the room
can vote. The actions of these groups is advisory, so the impact of a vote is only to provide advice to the EC. >>>> >>>> For the TAGs, membership is determined by the IEEE 802 WG P&P, so referencing the appropriate section would be correct. >>>> >>>> James Gilb >>>> >>>> On 04/03/2015 04:09 PM, Geoff Thompson wrote: >>>>> James- >>>>> It would seem that we should have something more than a declaration by the sub-group chair that responds to the implied questions put forth by the headings. Specifically with respect to:- Name
of the subgroup >>>>> - Chair of the subgroup (appointed by the Sponsor Chair or
>>>>> decided by nomination and election) >>>>> - Scope of the subgroup >>>>> - Duties of the subgroup >>>>> I believe that there should be references provided as to the motions (if they exist) that establish each of these items. >>>>> Geoff >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, April 3, 2015 3:46 PM, James P. K. Gilb <gilb@ieee.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All >>>>> >>>>> Our P&Ps states for "Other subgroups" that "The scope, duties, and
>>>>> membership of all subgroups shall be reviewed annually by the Sponsor." >>>>> >>>>> The scope and duties of a Working Group (WG) are determined by the
>>>>> active PARs assinged to that WG. The work of the WG in creating
>>>>> standards is reviewed by the EC multiple times and so does not
>>>>> fall into this requirement. >>>>> >>>>> However, our TAGs and Standing Committees do not have PARs and so
>>>>> the Sponsor Chair has asked that we perform this review during our
>>>>> June 2015 Conference call and has assigned me the task of gathering the input. >>>>> >>>>> So, I need from each Standing Committee Chair or TAG Chair, slides
>>>>> by May 1, 2015 that answer the following questions: >>>>> - Name of the subgroup >>>>> - Chair of the subgroup (appointed by the Sponsor Chair or
>>>>> decided by nomination and election) >>>>> - Scope of the subgroup >>>>> - Duties of the subgroup >>>>> - Membership of the subgroup >>>>> - A statement of which of the following complementary
>>>>> activities is >>>>> appropriate: >>>>> 1) The subgroup is responsible for the definitive content
>>>>> of one or more documents and for responding to views and objections thereon. >>>>> Such subgroups shall maintain a membership roster and shall comply
>>>>> with the provisions for preparing standard(s). >>>>> 2) The subgroup is responsible for assisting the Sponsor
>>>>> (e.g., drafting all or a portion of a document, drafting responses
>>>>> to comments, drafting public statements on standards, or other
>>>>> purely advisory functions). >>>>> (I suspect all our "Other subgroups" are number 2). >>>>> >>>>> I will create a single presentation and upload it to mentor. >>>>> >>>>> The subgroups and Chairs that need to respond are (please correct
>>>>> me if I am wrong): >>>>> - IEEE 802.18 TAG - Mike Lynch >>>>> - IEEE 802.24 TAG - Tim Godfrey >>>>> - 802 EC/IETF Standing Committee - Pat Thaler >>>>> - 802 JTC1 Standing Committee - Andrew Myles >>>>> - 802 EC/ITU Standing Committee - Glenn Parsons >>>>> - Wireless Chairs Standing Committee - Bob Heile >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>> >>>>> James Gilb >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> ---------- >> This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. >> > > ---------- > This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. > |
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