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Re: [802SEC] reminder - 802 meeting fee increases friday at 11:59PM UTC, not AoE

Andrew- 

RE: Your statement: "Despite an apparent motion by the EC, any use of mm/dd/yyyy is ambiguous and confusing in most of the world. AoE is also slightly ambiguous because it does not account for DLS, although it is good enough in practice"

I disagree.
I believe that in "most of the world" use of mm/dd/yyyy means if you do it before midnight by your own clock you have met the deadline.

_expression_ as "mm/dd/yyyy AoE" means exactly the same thing without regard to what time zone is set into your own clock.  DST does not change that.

It does not mean that the calendar or meeting notice tells you the latest clock time you can use after midnight your local time.  The precise purpose of our system to express "end time" so that locally you can use your calendar instead of your clock.

Geoff
 


On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 02:35:50 PM PST, Andrew Myles (amyles) <amyles@cisco.com> wrote:


G’day all

 

Whatever we do, we should ensure that the representation is unambiguous (preferably by aligning with an International Standard, like ISO 8601)

 

Despite an apparent motion by the EC, any use of mm/dd/yyyy is ambiguous and confusing in most of the world. AoE is also slightly ambiguous because it does not account for DLS, although it is good enough in practice

 

Andrew

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] reminder - 802 meeting fee increases friday at 11:59PM UTC, not AoE

 

George-

 

How did this happen?

I am under the impression that the EC passed a motion some years ago that all 802 actions (as opposed to IEEE actions) that have a calendar closing date of the format mm/dd/yyyy AOE.

 

I believe we should honor all registrations in that 12 hour period at the lower rate.

 

It is precisely because of this sort of confusion and inconvenience with quoting calendar closing dates that we adopted AoE.

 

Best regards,

 

Geoff Thompson

 

 

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 08:35:30 AM PST, George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com> wrote:

 

 

All – just a reminder, per the plenary announcement (http://802world.org/plenary/) the meeting fee increases Friday at 11:59PM UTC, not AoE.  I was just on a call where a number of individuals thought it was AoE, so you may wish to remind your groups not to wait until the last minute.

 

Additionally, I can report we currently have almost 850 registrants for the March meeting, and climbing.

 

George Zimmerman, Ph.D.

802 LMSC Treasurer

 

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