Re: [802SEC] +++ ECM (early close) +++ ballot on Liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Re: PWI for Deterministic Wireless Industrial Network Ballot opens 2022-01-25
Hi Dorothy,
I support Roger's comments and your resolution of deleting the sentence.
I approve,
Thanks,
Tim.
At 12:05 PM 1/27/2022, Roger Marks wrote:
Dorothy,
Thanks for reviewing my comments. I agree with your point about goals in
my proposed sentence. I am happy with the option to delete the sentence,
and I agree that the message would not be lost. That would resolve all my
concerns.
Cheers,
Roger
On Jan 27, 2022, 10:33 AM -0700, Stanley, Dorothy
<dorothy.stanley@hpe.com>, wrote:
Roger, all,
Another option is to delete the problematic sentence, noting the current
following sentence:
"IEEE 802 invites ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6/WG1 to provide a Liaison
Statement to IEEE 802 that highlights its perspective on how the IEEE
802.3 and IEEE 802.11 standards can be improved to better meet industrial
networking needs. We hope that this would then become the basis of
ongoing collaboration. "
and the previous text effectively state what we intend in the problematic
sentence, without saying so directly.
Dorothy
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Ballot opens 2022-01-25
Hello Roger,
I appreciate your comments. I expect that most if not all your editorial
suggestions will be accepted as part of the final editing.
Regarding the text change proposed as the basis of your negative
vote, I accept that the first sentence potentially can be improved;
however I don't think the proposed sentence is quite there.
<snip>
Current sentence:
IEEE 802 requests that ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6/WG1 focus its industrial
networking efforts on assisting IEEE 802 to refine its solutions, rather
than focusing efforts on yet another wireless network solution.
RBM proposed replacement:
IEEE 802 suggests that the goals of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6/WG1 in
industrial networking would be most efficiently achieved by engagement
with IEEE 802 and aiding in the refinement of IEEE 802 technology.
[Note: The comment on this sentence is the only basis of my Disapprove
vote.]
Comment:
The proposed text "IEEE 802 suggests that the goals" implies
that 802 knows what the goals of of WG1 are. We do not.
Is the underlying issue use of the work "requests"?
Perhaps something along the lines of:
"IEEE 802 invites ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC6/WG1 to engage with IEEE 802 to
refine IEEE 802 technology based solutions."
or
"IEEE 802 invites ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC6/WG1 to assist IEEE 802 in
refining its solutions, rather than focusing efforts on a separate,
potentially overlapping solution."
Dorothy
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Dorothy Stanley
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
dorothy.stanley@hpe.com
+1 630-363-1389
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Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> on behalf of
Roger Marks <r.b.marks@IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 3:05 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
<STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ ECM (early close) +++ ballot on Liaison
to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Re: PWI for Deterministic Wireless Industrial Network
Ballot opens 2022-01-25
Dorothy,
I vote Disapprove. I?ve attached comments. My Disapprove is based only on
the final paragraph. The rest of the comments are editorial.
Cheers,
Roger
On Jan 25, 2022, 12:05 PM -0700, Stanley, Dorothy
<dorothy.stanley@hpe.com>, wrote:
Dear EC members,
Per the 'early close' provision in
the 802 Operations Manual subclause 4.1.2, this motion is to approve
a liaison to ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 WG1 re: the Preliminary Work Item (PWI)
proposal
in SC6/WG1 for a new Deterministic Wireless Industrial Network. Paul
Nikolich has delegated conduct of this ballot to me.
Ballot Open: Tuesday January 25th at 7PM UTC (2PM Eastern) for
10 days, with early close.
Motion:
Liaise
11-22-0081r6 to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 in relation to the Preliminary Work
Item (PWI) proposal in SC6/WG1 for a new Deterministic Wireless
Industrial Network, with editorial privileges given to the Chair.
Moved: Stanley
Seconded: Rosdahl
WG11 Result: Y/N/A: 82/2/34
Please let me know of any questions.
Thanks,
Dorothy
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Dorothy Stanley
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
dorothy.stanley@hpe.com
+1 630-363-1389
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