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Re: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks



Mat,

	Yes, the letter is from Paul on behalf of IEEE 802.  If some
edits can be made to clarify that would be fine with me.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
[mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:10 PM
To: wk3c@wk3c.com; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org; Shellhammer, Steve
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating
Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks

Steve / Carl,

Do you want a letter from 'Paul' or on behalf of IEEE 802.

Mat

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
Senior Member Technical Staff 
BAE Systems Network Enabled Solutions (NES) 
Office: +1 973.633.6344 
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl R Stevenson
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 7:03 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating
Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks

I second Steve's Motion.

Carl


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org 
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:39 PM
> To: Paul Nikolich; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards 
> Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> 
> Paul,
> 
> 	Here you go.
> 
> 	I move the following text be sent in a letter from Paul 
> Nikolich to the IEEE Computer Society.
> 
> (I have also attached a Word document with the exact same text).
> 
> 	I will call Carl and see if he is willing to second the motion.
> 
> Steve
> 
> ---------------------
> 
> The IEEE 802 executive committee recommends that the Computer 
> Society not become a sponsor of the proposed standards 
> coordinating committee on dynamic spectrum access networks.
> 
> In addition the IEEE 802 executive committee recommends the 
> Computer Society forward the following comments to the IEEE 
> 1900 steering committee and the IEEE Standards Board, on 
> behalf of IEEE 802. 
> 
> 
> IEEE 802 appreciates that some future wireless standards will 
> incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies. In fact, 
> IEEE 802 has a working group (802.22) developing a standard 
> for unlicensed broadband access operation on geographically 
> unused channels in the television bands, which incorporates 
> dynamic spectrum access technologies.  IEEE 802's only 
> concern regarding the establishment of a standards 
> coordination committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access networks
> (DySPAN) is any potential conflict between the SCC and 
> activities, both present and future, within IEEE 802.
> 
> The IEEE 802 organization has a long history of development 
> of wireless networking standards. There are currently six 
> wireless working groups and two wireless technical advisory 
> committees (TAGs) within IEEE 802.
> If a SCC on DySPAN were to be established the IEEE 802 
> leadership needs to be assured that the existence of such a 
> SCC would not preclude IEEE
> 802 from initiating and running new wireless projects within 
> IEEE 802 which may incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies.
> 
> IEEE 802 has always been the place within the IEEE for 
> standardizing wired and wireless networking standards, and we 
> believe that fundamental networking standards are best 
> handled within IEEE 802.  We are sure there are many 
> additional standards developments that can be covered in the 
> DySPAN SCC which will not conflict with the fundamental 
> wireless networking standards being developed within IEEE 802.
> 
> In summary, IEEE 802 is fine with the establishment of the 
> SCC on DySPAN as long as the scope of work does not conflict 
> with the work done in IEEE 802.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:17 PM
> To: Shellhammer, Steve; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating 
> Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> 
> Steve,
> 
> I just re-read the inquiry from the CS-SAB Chair.  It said: 
> "If LMSC/802
> 
> wishes to formalize their involvement, then IEEE-CS should be 
> the 3rd Society join with this SCC with ComSoc & EMC."
> 
> Based on the responses I've seen from the EC on the draft 
> response letter, I think it is safe to assume LMSC is not 
> interested in becoming formally involved with the SCC.  
> Furthermore LMSC is not a 'society', the Computer Society is, 
> and I would not recommend CS become involved with the SCC.
> 
> Regardless, I would prefer to have an EC decision via motion 
> regarding this matter, it would include approving your draft 
> text and making a recommendation against formally engaging 
> with the proposed SCC.  Please prepare text for a motion, 
> obtain a second and I'll run an EC email ballot.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --Paul
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:22 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating 
> Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I just wanted to send you a reminder about this.  I have 
> incorporated the suggested edits.  When we first talked about 
> this you made an off-the-cuff comment about running an 
> electronic ballot about this.  I don't know if that is 
> necessary, but if you feel it is I suggest you start it right 
> away, since the Computer Society has asked for a response by 
> February 13.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** 
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:20 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on 
> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> 
> Carl,
> 
> 
> 
>       Thank you for your comments, which I have incorporated 
> in to revision 1 (attached).
> 
> 
> 
>       Does anyone else have any additional comment?
> 
> 
> 
>       If not, then Paul can send this to the Computer 
> Society.  Paul, you may want to format it into a letter from 
> you to the appropriate person in the Computer Society.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** 
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:34 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on 
> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> 
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have attached a couple of suggested changes to Steve's 
> document with my
> 
> initials appended to the filename.
> 
> 
> 
> My main concern is that we not get into repeating situations 
> similar to the
> 
> one we had with a project that overlaps the scope of 802.3.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
> On
> 
> Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> 
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:09 PM
> 
> To: STDS-802-SEC@IEEE.ORG
> 
> Subject: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum
> 
> Access Networks
> 
> 
> 
> EC Members,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             The IEEE 1900 standards group has proposed the 
> formation of a
> 
> Standards Coordinating Committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum 
> access networks
> 
> (DySPAN).  This is a new field of wireless networks in which 
> an unlicensed
> 
> system dynamically utilized spectrum unused by licensed 
> wireless systems.
> 
> The first example of this technology will be the unlicensed 
> used of unused
> 
> TV bands.  This is what is being standardized within IEEE 802.22.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             Paul received information on this proposal (see 
> attached) from
> 
> John Walz and Kathy Land of the Computer Society.  We have 
> been asked to
> 
> submit any comments we have to the computer society by February 13.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             Paul and Carl and I exchanged a few email and 
> Carl and I spoke
> 
> about this.  Paul wanted someone to craft some text for our 
> comments on this
> 
> proposed SCC. So I have drafted some initial comments, which 
> are attached.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>             Please review these comments and send any edits 
> or any other
> 
> comments you have to the EC reflector.  I will attempt to capture the
> 
> consensus of the feedback and will revise the comments accordingly.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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