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Mat, I vote No. I will change my vote to
a Yes if the following issues are addressed. Member Emeritus Under
qualification there were several items that are not qualification of the
candidate
Please modify the text to include a
section on qualifications of the candidate, the process of appointment of the
position and the restrictions on the position. Reaffirmation The text currently states “The
Working Group and TAG chairs are reaffirmed by their representative groups
while other members of the Executive Committee are reaffirmed in the Executive
Committee meeting.” My interpretation of this is that the EC does not
reaffirm the WG and TAG chairs (it is just done in the WG and TAG), however,
traditionally the EC does reaffirm the WG and TAG chairs after the WG and TAG
reaffirms. I would recommend we either change the test of the P&P or
change our operating procedure so that they are consistent with one another. Meeting of Teleconference I am unclear what it takes to pass a vote in a
teleconference. A quorum of 50% must be present. Does that imply that if more
than 50% of those present vote on something then it passes? Then we would only
need potentially a little over 25% of voting members to approve a vote. Or
does the vote require over 50% of all voting members, both present and not
present. Please just clarify so there is no confusion. Regards, Steve From:
owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) Sorry everyone, After that long note I forgot all the
accounting! See below. Mat Voters
DNV DIS APP
ABS Comments Provided? --------------------------------------------------------- 00 Paul
Nikolich
DIS
YES 01 Mat 02 Pat
Thaler DNV 03 Buzz
Rigsbee DNV 04 05 John
Hawkins DNV 06 07 Bob
Grow
DNV 08 Stuart
Kerry DNV 09 Bob
Heile DNV 10 Roger
Marks DNV 11 12 Mike
Lynch DNV 13 Steve
Shellhammer DNV 14 Jerry
Upton DNV 15 Ajay
Rajkumar DNV 16 Carl
Stevenson DNV ---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++---+++--- TOTALS
DIS DNV APP ABS total:
-00- -01- -00- -00- Ballot Comments: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "John Lemon"
<JLemon@luminous.com> Via I recommend approval of this
revision only after the following two items have been corrected. 7.1.2.1: I see no reason to
limit this position to one person. Change "one person" to "_a
person or persons_" and strike "_4. _- limited to a single
position". 7.1.3: The penultimate
sentence seems to disallow a member from resigning. Change "unless removed
with cause" to "unless removed with cause or removed by
resignation". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Nikolich
[paul.nikolich@att.net]
Mon 12/6/2004 12:59 PM I vote disapprove with the
following comment. Accepting my comments will result in a change of my
vote to approve from disapprove. 1) Several of the sub
bullets in the 'Qualifications' section of 7.1.2.1 aren't qualifications but
'restrictions' or 'rights'. Delete 'Qualifications' and replace it with
'Conditions of the position are:' (or something equivalent.) PreBallot Comments: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geoff Thompson
[gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Fri 11/19/2004 4:39 PM I was highly distressed by a
vote of 6/4/4 today on forwarding a PAR. It seems like a bad idea for
members of the EC to be able to stand back from their duty to judge whether or
not a PAR or Draft should go forth to the SA Standards Board for approval. Therefore I would like to
enter the following comment on Mat's proposed text for EC voting which is being
balloted: Add the following text: "All votes taken by the
EC to forward projects or drafts to the IEEE-SA Standards Board for approval
shall require approval by a majority of the voting membership of the EC." I would appreciate your
support. Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. From:
owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On
Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) Dear EC members, This ballot closes on
Tuesday one minute before the stroke of midnight (EST)! Below you will
see the current status of the ballot. So far I have received response and
comment from one voting member (Paul). I have received comment from
non-voting members which are included in the comment section. Please take
some time to review this ballot, comment, and vote. I will be conducting
comment resolution on Friday. As a reminder the scope of the ballot is as
follows:
EC Meetings between Plenaries (telecoms, etc.)
Terms of appointed EC positions and removal if new EC chair
Procedures for elections and election appeals
Member Emeritus position If you are dissatisfied with
how we currently conduct business in any of these areas, now is the time to
voice your opinion! Please let me know if you see any errors in the accounting
below. Thanks & Regards, Mat Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. From:
owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]
On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J.
(US SSA) Dear
EC members, Attached
you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on EC Membership and Meetings. This
ballot was approved at the Friday November 19, 2004 EC meeting. The text is
identical to that presented at the meeting. The purpose and rationale for
the ballot are as given in the attached ballot document. Ballot
Duration: 12/5/2004 - 1/5/2004 @ 11:59 PM EST WG/TAG
chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your groups, and
invite them to comment through you. Thanks
& Regards, Mat <<802.0-EC_Membership_&_Meetings-P&P_Revision_ballot.doc>>
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