Re: [802SEC] Socials
Mat-
I fear that moving the social to Sunday night would:
- - be terrible for participation, many don't arrive until Monday
noon.
- - appear to be self-serving for the Exec ("others don't have to
be here on Sunday").
- - put many trip authorizing managers in the awkward position of
explicitly having to authorize ~$200 incremental expense to have their
employees (i.e. another hotel night) to attend a party.
- - put those who have the opportunity to travel Monday AM in the
position of choosing between family Sunday or 802 party (I would hope
family wins).
I think that the result would be even lower participation. That
would create a large faction that would be positioned to say that 10% of
their meeting fees was going to an activity that their management doesn't
support (by not sending them on Sunday). then the funding would disappear
and the social would be completely gone.
Geoff
At 03:52 PM 11/19/2004 -0800, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
Pat,
An alternative I've raised is the possibility to moving the
Social to
Sunday Night as a meet and greet. We can couple it
with an introduction
to 802 session. Also, since most of us are here on
Sunday anyway, we
can move the opening EC meetings to Sunday. I'm moving
ballot
resolution to telecom so that should make some room.
Just some ideas.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:30 PM
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Subject: [802SEC] Socials
I think we should put the question raised by 802.11 of whether to
continue having socials to our working groups at the next plenary. On
the one hand, I hate to get rid of the opportunity to meet each other in
a less formal setting than our meetings. On the other hand, as we get
larger it isn't clear that socials are working.
It is becoming increasingly difficult to locate people in these large
gatherings.
The noise level is often so high that conversation is difficult - a
positive feedback loop that results in a hoarse throat.
Because of these factors I know some people don't choose to attend the
social.
The cost seems much higher than the benefit they are providing - over
$30 a head at the last plenary.
Regards,
Pat
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