Re: [802SEC] Socials
Mat et al -
If the objective is to fix the problem of inability to converse due to the
noise generated by a large group of people, then moving it to Sunday night
may well be a viable solution, albeit an inequitable one for the reasons
mentioned by others.
However, it seems clear that there is no real solution that fixes all of
the objectives of having a social, so I have to agree with Pat that it is
well past time to pension it off. There was a time when it was a useful
social gathering and/or opportunity for ritual humiliation of the SEC, but
that time is long gone.
Regards,
Tony
At 21:36 21/11/2004, Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
>Mat, et all,
>
>I would oppose moving the social to Sunday night ... As Geoff mentioned in a
>message, that would exclude a very large number of participants, due to the
>fact that not everyone arrives on Sunday, or at least many arrive quite late
>on Sunday.
>
>Also, while it would free up time on Monday, I would also oppose moving the
>opening EC meeting to Sunday for the same reason. It would mean that the EC
>meeting would, effectively, be less open to attendance by interested
>parties.
>
>Regards,
>Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of
> > Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:53 PM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Socials
> >
> > Pat,
> >
> > An alternative I've raised is the possibility to moving the
> > Social to Sunday Night as a meet and greet. We can couple it
> > with an introduction to 802 session. Also, since most of us
> > are here on Sunday anyway, we can move the opening EC
> > meetings to Sunday. I'm moving ballot resolution to telecom
> > so that should make some room.
> >
> > Just some ideas.
> >
> > Mat
> >
> > Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> > Senior Member Technical Staff
> > BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> > Office: +1 973.633.6344
> > email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:30 PM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: [802SEC] Socials
> >
> > I think we should put the question raised by 802.11 of
> > whether to continue having socials to our working groups at
> > the next plenary. On the one hand, I hate to get rid of the
> > opportunity to meet each other in a less formal setting than
> > our meetings. On the other hand, as we get larger it isn't
> > clear that socials are working.
> >
> > It is becoming increasingly difficult to locate people in
> > these large gatherings.
> >
> > The noise level is often so high that conversation is
> > difficult - a positive feedback loop that results in a hoarse throat.
> >
> > Because of these factors I know some people don't choose to
> > attend the social.
> >
> > The cost seems much higher than the benefit they are
> > providing - over $30 a head at the last plenary.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> >
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