Re: [802SEC] Socials
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All,
I have
to agree with Geoff about a Sunday night social.
While
the event can be a bit large (and noisy) it also provides a break from the
meetings to not only "meet and great" but to meet and move off to other places
for more detailed discussions. In that way it is useful to stop the formal
meetings and allow more ad hoc discussions take place, either in the social or
simply begin there.
Regards,
Mike
Mat-
I fear that moving the social
to Sunday night would:
- - be terrible for participation, many don't arrive until Monday noon.
- - appear to be self-serving for the Exec ("others don't have to be here
on Sunday").
- - put many trip authorizing managers in the awkward position of
explicitly having to authorize ~$200 incremental expense to have their
employees (i.e. another hotel night) to attend a party.
- - put those who have the opportunity to travel Monday AM in the position
of choosing between family Sunday or 802 party (I would hope family
wins).
I think that the result would be even lower
participation. That would create a large faction that would be positioned to
say that 10% of their meeting fees was going to an activity that their
management doesn't support (by not sending them on Sunday). then the funding
would disappear and the social would be completely
gone.
Geoff
At 03:52 PM 11/19/2004 -0800, Sherman, Matthew
J. (US SSA) wrote:
Pat,
An
alternative I've raised is the possibility to moving the Social to
Sunday Night as a meet and greet. We can couple it
with an introduction
to 802 session. Also,
since most of us are here on Sunday anyway, we
can
move the opening EC meetings to Sunday. I'm moving ballot
resolution to telecom so that should make some room.
Just some ideas.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior
Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email:
matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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Subject: [802SEC]
Socials
I think we should put the question
raised by 802.11 of whether to
continue having
socials to our working groups at the next plenary. On
the one hand, I hate to get rid of the opportunity to meet each other
in
a less formal setting than our meetings. On the
other hand, as we get
larger it isn't clear that
socials are working.
It is becoming increasingly
difficult to locate people in these large
gatherings.
The noise level is often so
high that conversation is difficult - a
positive
feedback loop that results in a hoarse throat.
Because of these factors I know some people don't choose to attend
the
social.
The cost
seems much higher than the benefit they are providing - over
$30 a head at the last plenary.
Regards,
Pat
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