Abstain for the same reason. Plus cannot approve considering Bob's comments.
Regards,
Jerry Upton
In a message dated 6/15/2004 3:53:11 PM Central Daylight Time, ajayrajkumar@LUCENT.COM writes:
Abstain for the same reason.
regards,
-ajay
On 6/15/2004 11:36 AM, Tony Jeffree wrote:
> Same here.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
> At 15:56 15/06/2004, Mike Takefman wrote:
>
>>I am regret to admit that I have not yet found time to
>>read the changes. I shall do so prior to Portland and will
>>have comments no later then portland.
>>
>>In the mean time my vote is abstain.
>>
>>mike
>>
>>Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) wrote:
>>
>>>Based on Bill and Bob's disapproves (and Bob's comments), I vote
>>>DISAPROVE.
>>>
>>>(Maybe we can sort it out in the rules meeting in Portland ...)
>>>
>>>Carl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:quackenbush@ieee.org]
>>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:00 PM
>>>>To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)
>>>>Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>>compliance with SA Model P&P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Carl,
>>>>
>>>>It will be at least a couple of days before my reading,
>>>>comparing the old and new versions and comment generation is complete.
>>>>
>>>>wlq
>>>>
>>>>"Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was waiting to see Bill's comments ...
>>>>>
>>>>>Carl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf
>>>>>
>>>>Of Sherman,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew J. (US SSA)
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:25 PM
>>>>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>>>
>>>>compliance with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>SA Model P&P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FYI, tomorrow is the last day to vote, and so far Bill's
>>>>>
>>>>is the only
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>vote I have received.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matthew Sherman, PhD
>>>>>>Senior Member Technical Staff
>>>>>>BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
>>>>>>Office: +1 973.633.6344
>>>>>>email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill
>>>>>>Quackenbush
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:24 PM
>>>>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC P&P Revision Ballot +++
>>>>>
>>>>compliance with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>SA Model P&P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I vote DISAPPROVE with comments to follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wlq
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dear EC members,
>>>>>>>This email initiates a EC P&P Revision Ballot. The ballot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>opens today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- May 15, 2004 and closes June 15, 2004 at 11:59 PM Eastern
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Daylight Time. (Remember if you do not vote or abstain on this
>>>>>>ballot it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE vote). Buzz,
>>>>>
>>>>please ensure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>this gets sent to the "802ALL" email list as well. WG
>>>>>
>>>>chairs, if you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>haven't already done so, please invite your WG members to comment
>>>>>>through you. Attached you will find a zip file containing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) A P&P Revision cover letter
>>>>>>
>>>>(802.0-Compliance_with_SA_Model_P&P-Balloted_P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) Text for the P&P revision
>>>>>>> (SA_Model_compliant_LMSC_P&P_040514.doc)
>>>>>>> 3) A mapping of text from the "old" P&P to the "new" P&P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(LMSC_P&P-March_2004_R0_reformat-map_040514.doc)
>>>>>>>The scope of this P&P revision is to bring the LMSC P&P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>into "editorial" conformance with the SA Model Sponsor
>>>>>
>>>>P&P. That is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to match the format of the SA model Sponsor P&P, but not
>>>>>
>>>>to add or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>deleted any "governance" content from the current LMSC
>>>>>
>>>>P&P. (I use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the term "Governance" here is sense analogous to the term
>>>>>>"normative" in standardese.) This letter ballot was
>>>>>
>>>>approved at the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Friday, March 19, 2004 EC meeting. The rationale for the changes
>>>>>>being balloted are as given in the attached cover letter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The actual changes are given in the second document listed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>above. The changes are made in Word track changes mode
>>>>>
>>>>against the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>SA model Sponsor P&P
>>>>>>(http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/sponsmod.rtf). Normally, I
>>>>>>would provide a pdf of the changes rather than a word
>>>>>
>>>>document, but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I have placed embedded comments in the file, and don't
>>>>>
>>>>know how to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>maintain them in pdf format. While this is a set of "editorial
>>>>>>changes" to bring our P&P into the same overall format as the SA
>>>>>>model P&P, the changes are very extensive, and a number of issues
>>>>>>for future P&P are noted. Please review the changes closely. I
>>>>>>expect I will have additional recommendations for
>>>>>
>>>>editorial changes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>prior to the close of this ballot. Note that all
>>>>>
>>>>embedded comments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>will be removed from the document once approved, prior to
>>>>>>formal release. The comments are there to highlight issues
>>>>>>that have arisen during the reformatting process that will
>>>>>>have to be addressed in a future ballot as I believe them
>>>>>
>>>>to require
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>governance changes.
>>>>>>>Note that a reformat map is provided in the third document
>>>>>>
>>>>>>listed above. It is a heavily commented version of the
>>>>>
>>>>current P&P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>that indicates where in the "New P&P" each section of
>>>>>
>>>>text from the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>"old P&P" gets mapped. It will help the reader to confirm that I
>>>>>>have neither added nor deleted anything other than
>>>>>
>>>>editorial content
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>in reformatting the P&P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Mat
>>>>>>>PS - Note that because of corporate firewall issues, I have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>renamed the zip file extension to "renamed_zip". Prior to
>>>>>>attempting to open the zip file you should change the
>>>>>
>>>>file extension
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>back to "zip". If anyone has problems opening the file please
>>>>>>contact me and I will provide the contents in uncompressed form.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>><<Compliance_with_SA_Model_P&P-Balloted_P&P_Revision_ballot.renamed_
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>zi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>p>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Matthew Sherman, PhD
>>>>>>>Senior Member Technical Staff
>>>>>>>BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
>>>>>>>Office: +1 973.633.6344
>>>>>>>email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>>>>>>>
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