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Re: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation




All,

I would support the policy that unless the offending slide is changed to
remove the inaccurate statements/implications, the conference organizers
are notified of the situation and requested to remove the presentation
from the conference record.

Thanks,

wlq

Bob O'Hara wrote:
> 
> Carl,
> 
> One option is to make the conference organizers aware of the false
> claims and have the IEEE request that they pull the entire presentation
> from the materials and censure the author.
> 
>  -Bob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Stevenson,
> Carl R (Carl)
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:55 AM
> To: Rigsbee, Everett O; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
> 
> No ... no joke ... read the slide I clipped from the
> presentation ...
> 
> A number of people told me they got the distinct
> impression that ArrayComm was saying "iBurst=802.20".
> 
> Carl
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:52 PM
> > To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> > "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl,  Of all the possible things to try to claim conformance
> > to 802.20 would be at the very bottom of my list.
> >
> > Are you sure someone isn't just playing a joke on you ???    :-)
> >
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing - SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA  98124-2207
> > (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
> > everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [mailto:carlstevenson@agere.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:02 PM
> > To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> > Subject: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> > "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
> > Importance: High
> >
> >
> > Dear EC Members,
> >
> > I have a real problem with the presentation made by Joanne
> > Wilson of ArrayComm (a member of 802.20) at the CITEL
> > Broadband Seminar today in El Salvador.
> >
> > The offending slide claims that ArrayComm's "iBurst" is
> > "Proven technology, standards-based (IEEE 802.20), multiple
> > large manufacturers" ... and THAT
> > is what attendees will be taking home and presumably
> > distributing to their colleagues.
> >
> > I also mention that IEEE trademarks, if any, on IEEE 802.20
> > are not honored in  ArrayComm's slides.
> >
> > I did question Ms. Wilson in the Q&A session following the
> > presentations and got her to verbally clarify that, while
> > ArrayComm may intend to make a proposal in
> > 802.20, that their "iBurst" technology is NOT "802.20" nor is
> > it even certain in any way to become a part of the
> > yet-to-be-defined 802.20 standard.  However, the
> > slide will still go home with people and when they review it
> > or share it with colleagues the misimpression will be reinforced.
> >
> > Ms. Wilson's response when confronted privately with the
> > attached slide was "It's done, I clarified, and I'm not going
> > to change the slide now."
> >
> > I bring this to the attention of the EC because I  believe
> > this misrepresentation in ArrayComm's presentation to the
> > CITEL community is totally inappropriate and I
> > am interested in what possible action the EC and/or IEEE
> > can/will take.
> >
> > I am only sending the egregious slide at this time, as the
> > entire presentation is about 7 MB.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carl R. Stevenson
> > Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
> > 610-965-8799 (home office)
> > 610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
> > 610-570-6168 (cellphone)
> > Short Message Service: 6105706168@voicestream.net
> > carl.stevenson@ieee.org
> >
> >  <<ArrayComm_slide16_CITEL.ppt>>
> >
> >
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> >
> >