FW: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
SEC Members
I have spoken to Joanne and, as you can see from the e-mail below, she has agreed to modify the slide in question. She has also asked me (since she is not able to post to the SEC reflector)to forward the attached e-mail providing her viewpoint on this issue.
Regards,
Mark Klerer
-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne Wilson [mailto:joanne@arraycomm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:49 PM
To: Klerer Mark
Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
Mark,
Please forward my response to the SEC members.
Best regards,
Joanne
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Gentlemen,
I am aware that that Mr. Stevenson sent you a slide from my CITEL
presentation
and asserted that I claimed, on behalf of ArrayComm, that our system was
based
on (or compliant with) an 802.20 standard. That is very far from the truth
and is, obviously, a bizarre assertion to make. During the presentation I
stated that
ArrayComm system was an IP-based system that, on the network side used a
standards-based open architecture. I further stated that, for the radio
access portion
of the network, we were involved in the establishment of the 802.20 WG, that
we are currently active in 802.20, and that we would be bringing our
technology in as a proposal
to 802.20 in response to its future call for proposals. During the Q&A,
Carl asked
me to clarify that point, which I did, stating (again) that 802.20 had yet
to
make its call for proposals. The particular slide that Carl sent you had
was very
wordy and had 802.20 mentioned parathetically, which was our shorthand way
to remind
the audience that that was the standards body where we would be bringing our
proposal.
In hindsight, agree that by itself it could be interpreted as our stating
that we were compliant with 802.20. However, that was not our intent and
that was not the impression
given to the audience. The summary slide of the presentation, attached,
specifically states:
"Real world deployment supports future standardization in IEEE802.20"
I think this is much clearer and dispells any notion that we are stating
that we are
compliant with a yet to be established standard.
At the time that I spoke with Carl, after both the presentation and the Q&A
session where
it had been stated and restated the current status of the work within 802.20
and ArrayComm's intention, I didn't believe that there remained any
misunderstandings within this forum. Thus, to me this was a non-issue,
particularly since I didn't share Carl's interpretation
of that one pararenthetical on that one slide.
So, I have no problem with modifying that one slide and I will submit it to
CITEL. I will
also put on the record, however, that I am amazed and personnally offended
that Mr. Stevenson willfully mislead the SEC about by presentation by
sending you, out of context, one of twenty-four slides and asserting that
there is a "misrepresentation in ArrayComm's presentation". With the
information that you were provided, I understand why the SEC members would
have a negative reaction to what he asserted. Unfortunately, that
information
was neither complete nor accurate. I hope an apology will be forthcoming.
Best regards,
Joanne
-----Original Message-----
From: Klerer Mark [mailto:M.Klerer@flarion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:43 AM
To: 'Joanne Wilson'
Subject: FW: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
"Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
Importance: High
FYI
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob O'Hara [mailto:bob@airespace.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:32 AM
To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
"Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
Carl,
One option is to make the conference organizers aware of the false
claims and have the IEEE request that they pull the entire presentation
from the materials and censure the author.
-Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Stevenson,
Carl R (Carl)
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:55 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
"Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
No ... no joke ... read the slide I clipped from the
presentation ...
A number of people told me they got the distinct
impression that ArrayComm was saying "iBurst=802.20".
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:52 PM
> To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
>
>
>
> Carl, Of all the possible things to try to claim conformance
> to 802.20 would be at the very bottom of my list.
>
> Are you sure someone isn't just playing a joke on you ??? :-)
>
> Thanx, Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA 98124-2207
> (425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
> everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [mailto:carlstevenson@agere.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:02 PM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
> Importance: High
>
>
> Dear EC Members,
>
> I have a real problem with the presentation made by Joanne
> Wilson of ArrayComm (a member of 802.20) at the CITEL
> Broadband Seminar today in El Salvador.
>
> The offending slide claims that ArrayComm's "iBurst" is
> "Proven technology, standards-based (IEEE 802.20), multiple
> large manufacturers" ... and THAT
> is what attendees will be taking home and presumably
> distributing to their colleagues.
>
> I also mention that IEEE trademarks, if any, on IEEE 802.20
> are not honored in ArrayComm's slides.
>
> I did question Ms. Wilson in the Q&A session following the
> presentations and got her to verbally clarify that, while
> ArrayComm may intend to make a proposal in
> 802.20, that their "iBurst" technology is NOT "802.20" nor is
> it even certain in any way to become a part of the
> yet-to-be-defined 802.20 standard. However, the
> slide will still go home with people and when they review it
> or share it with colleagues the misimpression will be reinforced.
>
> Ms. Wilson's response when confronted privately with the
> attached slide was "It's done, I clarified, and I'm not going
> to change the slide now."
>
> I bring this to the attention of the EC because I believe
> this misrepresentation in ArrayComm's presentation to the
> CITEL community is totally inappropriate and I
> am interested in what possible action the EC and/or IEEE
> can/will take.
>
> I am only sending the egregious slide at this time, as the
> entire presentation is about 7 MB.
>
>
> Regards,
> Carl R. Stevenson
> Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
> 610-965-8799 (home office)
> 610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
> 610-570-6168 (cellphone)
> Short Message Service: 6105706168@voicestream.net
> carl.stevenson@ieee.org
>
> <<ArrayComm_slide16_CITEL.ppt>>
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