RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
- To: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@agere.com>, <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
- Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
- From: "Bob O'Hara" <bob@airespace.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:31:45 -0700
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- Thread-Topic: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
Carl,
One option is to make the conference organizers aware of the false
claims and have the IEEE request that they pull the entire presentation
from the materials and censure the author.
-Bob
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[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Stevenson,
Carl R (Carl)
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:55 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
"Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
No ... no joke ... read the slide I clipped from the
presentation ...
A number of people told me they got the distinct
impression that ArrayComm was saying "iBurst=802.20".
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:52 PM
> To: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl); stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
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> Carl, Of all the possible things to try to claim conformance
> to 802.20 would be at the very bottom of my list.
>
> Are you sure someone isn't just playing a joke on you ??? :-)
>
> Thanx, Buzz
> Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing - SSG
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stevenson, Carl R (Carl) [mailto:carlstevenson@agere.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:02 PM
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] ArrayComm claiming their technology to be
> "Standards-Based (IEEE 802.20)" in CITEL Seminar presentation
> Importance: High
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>
> Dear EC Members,
>
> I have a real problem with the presentation made by Joanne
> Wilson of ArrayComm (a member of 802.20) at the CITEL
> Broadband Seminar today in El Salvador.
>
> The offending slide claims that ArrayComm's "iBurst" is
> "Proven technology, standards-based (IEEE 802.20), multiple
> large manufacturers" ... and THAT
> is what attendees will be taking home and presumably
> distributing to their colleagues.
>
> I also mention that IEEE trademarks, if any, on IEEE 802.20
> are not honored in ArrayComm's slides.
>
> I did question Ms. Wilson in the Q&A session following the
> presentations and got her to verbally clarify that, while
> ArrayComm may intend to make a proposal in
> 802.20, that their "iBurst" technology is NOT "802.20" nor is
> it even certain in any way to become a part of the
> yet-to-be-defined 802.20 standard. However, the
> slide will still go home with people and when they review it
> or share it with colleagues the misimpression will be reinforced.
>
> Ms. Wilson's response when confronted privately with the
> attached slide was "It's done, I clarified, and I'm not going
> to change the slide now."
>
> I bring this to the attention of the EC because I believe
> this misrepresentation in ArrayComm's presentation to the
> CITEL community is totally inappropriate and I
> am interested in what possible action the EC and/or IEEE
> can/will take.
>
> I am only sending the egregious slide at this time, as the
> entire presentation is about 7 MB.
>
>
> Regards,
> Carl R. Stevenson
> Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group
> 610-965-8799 (home office)
> 610-712-3217 (fax mailbox)
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> carl.stevenson@ieee.org
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