Re: SEC reflector membership
Geoff -
I accept that the website archive provides openness and visibility.
What criteria do you propose regarding membership of the reflector? Limit
membership to current Exec only? Would make for a nice, clean definition -
but probably too clean - there are almost certainly others that feel they
have legitimate needs for access to the reflector; for example, Standards
Office liaisons, Chair and committee members of the SA, past Exec
members...The problem then becomes how to determine a legitimate need.
Regards,
Tony
So what set of member
At 09:49 23/10/00 -0700, Geoff Thompson wrote:
>Bob-
>
>Mike should certainly be on the SEC reflector. He IS a member of the Exec,
>it is just that he is a non-voting member until he makes it out of SG
>status. If he was not put on the reflector then it was due to either
>misunderstanding or an oversight.
>
>My view as to the "openness of the SEC reflector is as follows:
> 1) The reflector should NOT be open to anyone who wishes to
> subscribe. This is the same as the essence of the meetings of the Exec in
> that the peanut gallery does not have the right to speak (although they
> are often granted the courtesy)
> 2) The Exec reflector message traffic should have a thread
> archive that is easily accessible from the 802 Home Page. I thought that
> we had done this but I can't find anything. This will provide the
> openness and visibility that we should have for all of our meetings. It
> will also provide any observer with mail access to either side of any
> discussion that is taking place.
>
>I would ask that Paul take action to clarify each of these 3 items and to
>modify our procedures, web page and rules accordingly.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>At 07:50 AM 10/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Mike, you bring up a good question - Do you have the right to be on the SEC
>>reflector as an SEC sponsored study group.
>>
>>While you certainly don't get to vote on the various issues that come up, it
>>appears reasonable to me that since the SEC reflector is also used to
>>circulate various housekeeping messages such as what size meeting room and
>>equipment will you need at the next meeting, that all SEC appointed or
>>approved Study Group Chairs should be immediately placed on the SEC
>>reflector.
>>
>>Paul, do you agree? Do we need to take any kind of SEC affirmative action
>>to make this happen (such as approving a motion) or can we simply institute
>>this as a policy?
>>
>>Are there any other opinions out there about adding SEC appointed/approved
>>Study Group Chairs to the SEC reflector?
>>
>>Is there any reason that we should need to put this on the Monday morning
>>agenda? I, for one, would think we could implement this suggestion without
>>motions or discussion, assuming there are no significantly contrary opinions
>>voiced on this reflector.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Robert D. Love
>>President, LAN Connect Consultants
>>7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
>>Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
>>email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Mike Takefman <tak@cisco.com>
>>To: RDLove <rdlove@nc.rr.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:39 PM
>>Subject: Re: Fw: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>>meeting
>>
>>
>> > No, I assumed that I would get to join once I was a
>> > working group chair. Do I actually get the right
>> > to be on now?
>> >
>> > thanks for the heads up.
>> >
>> > mike
>> >
>> > RDLove wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Mike, are you on the 802SEC reflector?
>> > >
>> > > I don't expect that our group needs any networking services, but I
>>thought
>> > > you should know.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > >
>> > > Robert D. Love
>> > > President, LAN Connect Consultants
>> > > 7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
>> > > Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
>> > > email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>> > > To: <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>
>> > > Cc: <donbe@microsoft.com>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:59 PM
>> > > Subject: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>>meeting
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear SEC,
>> > > >
>> > > > I have seen more debate/discussion on cookies than on provisioning
>> > > > networking services to our attendees for the upcoming
>>meeting...amazing!
>> > > >
>> > > > For those chairs that are interesting in providing network access to
>>their
>> > > > members, Don Berry of Microsoft is setting up network services at the
>> > > > upcoming meeting. If your group has specific requirements, please
>>foward
>> > > > them to Don so that he can factor them into his plans for the meeting.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > --Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: Don Berry <donbe@microsoft.com>
>> > > > >To: "'Paul Nikolich'" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>,
>>dawns@facetoface-events.com
>> > > > >Subject: RE: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
>> > > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:37:42 -0700
>> > > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Paul, Dawn suggested that you poll the rest of the EXCOM to see if
>>their
>> > > > >groups have any requirements that I need to know about.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Thanks!
>> > > > >Don
>> > > > >
>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > >From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:p.nikolich@ieee.org]
>> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:03 PM
>> > > > >To: Don Berry; dawns@facetoface-events.com
>> > > > >Subject: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Don, Dawn,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >This is to introduce you--Dawn, Don is responsible for setting up the
>> > > > >network for the upcoming plenary.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Don, Dawn is responsible for setting up all the meeting arrangements.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >When you get a chance you should sync up on the network planning for
>>the
>> > > > >meeting.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Thanks,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >--Paul
>> > > > >
>> > > >
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