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Re: SEC reflector membership




The reflector is archived at http://ieee802.org/secmail.

You can find the link under "IEEE 802 Operating Rules and Other Documents".

Roger


At 9:49 AM -0700 00/10/23, Geoff Thompson wrote:
>Bob-
>
>Mike should certainly be on the SEC reflector. He IS a member of the 
>Exec, it is just that he is a non-voting member until he makes it 
>out of SG status. If he was not put on the reflector then it was due 
>to either misunderstanding or an oversight.
>
>My view as to the "openness of the SEC reflector is as follows:
>         1) The reflector should NOT be open to anyone who wishes to 
>subscribe. This is the same as the essence of the meetings of the 
>Exec in that the peanut gallery does not have the right to speak 
>(although they are often granted the courtesy)
>         2) The Exec reflector message traffic should have a thread 
>archive that is easily accessible from the 802 Home Page. I thought 
>that we had done this but I can't find anything. This will provide 
>the openness and visibility that we should have for all of our 
>meetings. It will also provide any observer with mail access to 
>either side of any discussion that is taking place.
>
>I would ask that Paul take action to clarify each of these 3 items 
>and to modify our procedures, web page and rules accordingly.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>At 07:50 AM 10/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>Mike, you bring up a good question - Do you have the right to be on the SEC
>>reflector as an SEC sponsored study group.
>>
>>While you certainly don't get to vote on the various issues that come up, it
>>appears reasonable to me that since the SEC reflector is also used to
>>circulate various housekeeping messages such as what size meeting room and
>>equipment will you need at the next meeting, that all SEC appointed or
>>approved Study Group Chairs should be immediately placed on the SEC
>>reflector.
>>
>>Paul, do you agree?  Do we need to take any kind of SEC affirmative action
>>to make this happen (such as approving a motion) or can we simply institute
>>this as a policy?
>>
>>Are there any other opinions out there about adding SEC appointed/approved
>>Study Group Chairs to the SEC reflector?
>>
>>Is there any reason that we should need to put this on the Monday morning
>>agenda?  I, for one, would think we could implement this suggestion without
>>motions or discussion, assuming there are no significantly contrary opinions
>>voiced on this reflector.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Robert D. Love
>>President, LAN Connect Consultants
>>7105 Leveret Circle     Raleigh, NC 27615
>>Phone: 919 848-6773       Mobile: 919 810-7816
>>email: rdlove@ieee.org          Fax: 720 222-0900
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Mike Takefman <tak@cisco.com>
>>To: RDLove <rdlove@nc.rr.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:39 PM
>>Subject: Re: Fw: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>>meeting
>>
>>
>>  > No, I assumed that I would get to join once I was a
>>  > working group chair. Do I actually get the right
>>  > to be on now?
>>  >
>>>  thanks for the heads up.
>>>
>>>  mike
>>>
>>>  RDLove wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > Mike, are you on the 802SEC reflector?
>>>  >
>>>  > I don't expect that our group needs any networking services, but I
>>thought
>>>  > you should know.
>>>  >
>>>  > Best regards,
>>>  >
>>>  > Robert D. Love
>>>  > President, LAN Connect Consultants
>>>  > 7105 Leveret Circle     Raleigh, NC 27615
>>>  > Phone: 919 848-6773       Mobile: 919 810-7816
>>>  > email: rdlove@ieee.org          Fax: 720 222-0900
>>>  > ----- Original Message -----
>>>  > From: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>  > To: <stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org>
>>>  > Cc: <donbe@microsoft.com>
>>>  > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 1:59 PM
>>>  > Subject: COOKIES, oops no I mean NETWORKING for upcoming IEEE 802
>>meeting
>>>  >
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Dear SEC,
>>>  > >
>>>  > > I have seen more debate/discussion on cookies than on provisioning
>>>  > > networking services to our attendees for the upcoming
>>meeting...amazing!
>>>  > >
>>>  > > For those chairs that are interesting in providing network access to
>>their
>>>  > > members, Don Berry of Microsoft is setting up network services at the
>>>  > > upcoming meeting.  If your group has specific requirements, please
>>foward
>>>  > > them to Don so that he can factor them into his plans for the meeting.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Regards,
>>>  > >
>>>  > > --Paul
>>>  > >
>>>  > > >From: Don Berry <donbe@microsoft.com>
>>>  > > >To: "'Paul Nikolich'" <p.nikolich@ieee.org>,
>>dawns@facetoface-events.com
>>>  > > >Subject: RE: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
>>>  > > >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:37:42 -0700
>>>  > > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58)
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >Paul, Dawn suggested that you poll the rest of the EXCOM to see if
>>their
>>>  > > >groups have any requirements that I need to know about.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >Thanks!
>>>  > > >Don
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >-----Original Message-----
>>>  > > >From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:p.nikolich@ieee.org]
>>>  > > >Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:03 PM
>>>  > > >To: Don Berry; dawns@facetoface-events.com
>>>  > > >Subject: networking for upcoming IEEE 802 meeting
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >Don, Dawn,
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >This is to introduce you--Dawn, Don is responsible for setting up the
>>>  > > >network for the upcoming plenary.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >Don, Dawn is responsible for setting up all the meeting arrangements.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >When you get a chance you should sync up on the network planning for
>>the
>>>  > > >meeting.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >Thanks,
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > >--Paul
>>>  > > >
>>>  > >