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To George's comment, it looks better to me with that editorial fix, and we could clear up the power by being explicit: the new rule allows for up to -31.3 dBm PSD in some indoor applications while retaining the -41.3 dBm PSD limit otherwise. So instead of
"10 dB additional power" we could say "with a limit of -31.3 dBm PSD". I've copied Dries to double check me on as he was involved with this change in Europe.
Thanks George.
Ben
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 12:14 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] [UPDATED] ++10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of submission for China MIIT’s consultation "Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)"
Edward - I vote approve and have the following comment, which I consider editorial.
I think what you mean at the top of (content, labeled) page 2 might be better stated. It is confusing as is. I would suggest "e.g., by introducing fixed outdoor transmissions, which were previously
not permitted in Europe, and by allowing 10 dB additional power for indoor operation." - if is that the meaning.
Again, I consider that editorial and within your privilege. I am not certain whether you were wishing to convey that europe changed their permissions on outdoor, and that needs to be clear one way
or the other. Note that "an extra power of 10 dB" doesn't make technical sense, since dB is a relative unit, and not a unit of power. rephrasing it as I did makes it relative... Maybe you meant 10 dBm though?
George Zimmerman, Ph.D.
President & Principal
CME Consulting, Inc.
Experts in Advanced PHYsical Communications
george@cmephyconsulting.com
310-920-3860
On Jan 27, 2023, at 7:46 AM, Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, John!
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George Zimmerman |
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Dorothy Stanley |
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Edward
Approve
John
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
On Behalf Of Edward Au
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 9:01 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] [UPDATED] ++10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of submission for China MIIT’s consultation "Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)"
Thank you, David and Clint!
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Edward Au
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 6:15 AM Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com> wrote:
Hi Edward,
I vote approve.
Best regards,
David
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From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> On Behalf Of Edward Au
Sent: 26 January 2023 15:45
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] [UPDATED] ++10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of submission for China MIIT’s consultation "Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)"
[UPDATED - fix the typo of the motion text per Roger's comment]
Dear EC members,
With this email I would like to announce the start of a LMSC (EC) ballot on a comment submission to China MIIT’s consultation “Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)”.
Paul has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC (EC) 10-day electronic ballot on the motion below to approve the comments to the China MIIT. This EC motion is per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1 Procedure, P&P 7.1 b) (majority response) and P&P 7.1.2 (2/3 approval of votes cast)
for communication with government bodies and public statements. With that we would like to see everyone respond.
• Move to approve document
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-08-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.pdf for submission to the China MIIT’s consultation before the contribution deadline, with editorial license granted to the 802.18 chair.
o Approved in the RR-TAG: _12_ / _0_ / _6_ (The Chair did not vote)
Mover: Edward Au
Seconder: Clint Powell
Start of ballot: 25 January 2023
Close of ballot: 3 February 2023
Reference document: https://www.miit.gov.cn/gzcy/yjzj/art/2023/art_42a55669ef094373a01a838e235088c1.html
Regards,
Edward
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 4:04 PM Roger Marks <mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org> wrote:
Approve.
Note: The message erroneously says that it regards "the motion below to approve the comments to the ITU-R Working Party 5A”.
Cheers,
Roger
On Jan 25, 2023, 1:06 PM -0700, Edward Au <mailto:edward.ks.au@gmail.com>, wrote:
Dear EC members,
With this email I would like to announce the start of a LMSC (EC) ballot on a comment submission to China MIIT’s consultation “Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)”.
Paul has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC (EC) 10-day electronic ballot on the motion below to approve the comments to the ITU-R Working Party 5A. This EC motion is per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1 Procedure, P&P 7.1 b) (majority response) and P&P 7.1.2 (2/3 approval
of votes cast) for communication with government bodies and public statements. With that we would like to see everyone respond.
• Move to approve document
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-08-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.pdf for submission to the China MIIT’s consultation before the contribution deadline, with editorial license granted to the 802.18 chair.
o Approved in the RR-TAG: _12_ / _0_ / _6_ (The Chair did not vote)
Mover: Edward Au
Seconder: Clint Powell
Start of ballot: 25 January 2023
Close of ballot: 3 February 2023
Reference document:
https://www.miit.gov.cn/gzcy/yjzj/art/2023/art_42a55669ef094373a01a838e235088c1.html
Regards,
Edward
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