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Re: [802SEC] +++ EC pre-review : an 802 submission to China MIIT before proceeding to a motion +++

All,

Please see the attached with some largely editorial comments.
In the penultimate paragraph on Page 5, there is one sentence with "it" (2x) that I suggest needs
clarification to make clear what "it" is.

Thank you,

Dorothy

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Dorothy Stanley

Hewlett Packard Enterprise

dorothy.stanley@hpe.com

+1 630-363-1389


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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:14 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC pre-review : an 802 submission to China MIIT before proceeding to a motion +++
 
Hello Clint, Ben, and all,

Roger and I discussed offline and agreed on the following modification:
IEEE 802 LMSC appreciates MIIT’s review of its UWB regulations and suggests that the outcome should not reduce the amount of spectrum available to UWB.

Revision 6 - which is a redline version of revision 5 - is available at:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-06-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.docx

Revision 7 - which is a clean version of revision 6 - is also available at:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-06-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.pdf

If there is no further comment, I will open an EC letter ballot later today.

Thanks and Regards,
Edward


On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 12:23 AM Clint Powell <cpowell@ieee.org> wrote:
What about replacing
"Is not consistent with"
with
"would stifle"

BR,
Clint

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 3:29 AM, Benjamin Rolfe
Hi Roger,
I appreciate your efforts. I do need help getting the right words sometimes 🙂.
what we are trying to say is that with UWB expanding in use,  and proven not to interfere with protected services or anything else, it makes no sense to reduce the spectrum available for UWB.  Doing so means missing out on all this cool stuff.  And trying to say it diplomatically - and diplomatic is not my expertise.  Dries and Riku took a shot which was much less offensive than my original attempt.
Maybe that helps?  Appreciate any suggestions that make it better.
Ben

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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 1:42 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ EC pre-review : an 802 submission to China MIIT before proceeding to a motion +++
 
Edward,

I’m still uncomfortable with:

While IEEE 802 LMSC appreciates MIIT’s review of its UWB regulations, the proposed changes in this consultation is not consistent with the explosive growth in high value applications of the UWB devices [3] by reducing the amount of spectrum available to UWB. 

I can’t propose an alternative because I don’t know what it is intended to mean, but I maintain my prior comment:

This sentence is difficult. This is partly because it’s hard to see which words are subject to negation by the “not”. Also, it seems that citing increasing popularity could weaken the argument in the following sentence; with this newfound popularity, will we begin to see reports of interference?

Also, in the latest version, a new grammar problem arose (proposed changes... isare not consistent).

Cheers,

Roger
On Jan 24, 2023, 1:47 PM -0700, Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com>, wrote:
Roger and all,

Thank you very much for your review and comment.

The authors have accepted all of the edits from Roger, including Ben's proposed text change to Roger's comments.

Revision 4 - which is a redline version of revision 3 - is available at:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-04-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.docx

Revision 5 - which is a clean version of revision 4 - is also available at:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-05-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.pdf

Regards,
Edward

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 3:43 PM Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org> wrote:
Edward,

Here are a few comments.

Cheers,

Roger
On Jan 23, 2023, 12:23 PM -0700, Edward Au <edward.ks.au@gmail.com>, wrote:
Dear EC members,

I would like to request the review of an IEEE 802 submission to China MIIT's consultation on the “900MHz Frequency Band Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)” and “Ultra Wideband (UWB) Equipment Radio Management Regulations (Draft for Comments)” before proceeding to a motion coming Wednesday (25 January 2023).  Please kindly provide comments on the draft submission available at <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/23/18-23-0014-03-0000-proposed-response-to-miit-of-china-consultation-on-uwb.pdf> by Tuesday 24 January 2023 A.O.E.

Reference:

Thanks and Regards,
Edward

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