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Re: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++



Clint,

Not my call.

 

John

 

From: Clint Powell <clintonpowell@ymail.com> On Behalf Of Clint Powell
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 12:13 PM
To: jdambrosia@gmail.com; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Cc: cpowell@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++

 

John,

You raise a valid point. However the 2 docs are exactly the same word for word. Thank you for the catch and I apologize that no-one caught the doc. # reference in the WG Motion not being w.r.t. the copy posted on the EC mentor site. We will strive to improve this going forward. In this instance would the LMSC Motion be acceptable as I’ve reworked it here:

 

Motion: Approve sending IEEE P802.15.3-RevB-D4 to Standards Association ballot.

Confirm the CSD for P802.15.3-RevB in

https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0307-00-ACSD-p802-15-3ma.docx, being the exact same document word for word as the doc contained at:

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/21/15-21-0477-04-03ma-draft-csd-15-3ma.docx which was approved in the 802.15 WG Motion

 

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG Chair & 802 LMSC Member

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant

 

 

 

From: jdambrosia@gmail.com <jdambrosia@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:49 PM
To: cpowell@ieee.org; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++

 

Clint,

The explanation below was rather confusing, but the link to the presentation highlights a different issue

 

The original motion requested for the consent agenda was

Approve sending IEEE P802.15.3-RevB-D4 to Standards Association ballot.

Confirm the CSD for P802.15.3-RevB in

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/21/15-21-0477-04-03ma-draft-csd-15-3ma.docx

 

It appears that after your initial request there was an update to the CSD file -

 

The WG motion on Page 11 approves the following –

WG 802.15 has reviewed and approves the CSD 15-21-0477-04-03ma-draft-csd-15-3ma.docx, and the CA document 15-22-0462-05-03ma-            coexistence-assurance.doc; and requests unconditional approval from the EC to submit P802-15-3-Rev B-D4.pdf  to Standards Association    ballot.

 

However, you have now updated the motion to the EC in the presentation -

               Motion: Approve sending IEEE P802.15.3-RevB-D4 to Standards Association ballot.

Confirm the CSD for P802.15.3-RevB in

https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0307-00-ACSD-p802-15-3ma.docx

 

There is no linkage between the WG approved document and the document noted in the motion to the EC.

It does not appear that the WG confirmed the document that you are now requesting the EC approve.

 

If I am missing something please advise.

 

John

              

 

From: Clint Powell <clintonpowell@ymail.com> On Behalf Of Clint Powell
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 5:31 PM
To: jdambrosia@gmail.com; cpowell@ieee.org; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++

 

John,

Yes, thank you for the correction w.r.t. the link in the supporting document which has been updated in both r2 of the same and below:

              https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/23/15-23-0084-02-03ma-report-to-ec-for-approval-of-p802-15-3-revb-to-go-to-sa-ballot.pptx

The ma is an internal .15 nomenclature that is used referring to maintenance revision a. However, only after the project was started it was realized that we should have been using mb internally as this is the second revision (i.e. revision B) to the initial IEEE Std 802.15.3-2003. In the PAR it is officially referred to as Revision to IEEE Standard 802.15.3-2016. The title on the 1st page of draft revision doc is IEEE P802.15.3-Rev.B/D4.0, aligning with the internal .15 nomenclature and the name at the top of the 1st page contains both this and the name under which it will be published:

Internal .15 name for this specific version of the draft:    IEEE P802.15.3-Rev.B/D4.0, January 2023

Official name when published:    (Revision of IEEE Std 802.15.3-2016)

So, yes it can be confusing, and hopefully this helps to make some sense of it all.

 

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG Chair & 802 LMSC Member

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant

 

 

 

From: jdambrosia@gmail.com <jdambrosia@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 9:59 PM
To: cpowell@ieee.org; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++

 

Clint

The CSD file referenced below is not the approved CSD file for 802.15.3ma – see https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0307-00-ACSD-p802-15-3ma.docx.

 

However, I am somewhat confused looking at the CSD files – there is one for 802.15.3 (see https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/16/ec-16-0048-00-ACSD-802-15-3.docx) and the one for 802.15.3ma noted above.   However, your motion refers to a draft for 802.15.3 not .15.3.ma.

 

I am requesting that this motion be removed from the consent agenda.  Please address the situation I note above.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> On Behalf Of Clint Powell
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023 8:24 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] +++ EC Consent Agenda 7 February 2023 - IEEE 802.15 item - request +++

 

John and Colleagues,

Per the IEEE 802 LMSC P&P and LMSC OM I'd like to request the following IEEE 802.15 item be placed on the Tuesday 7th February 2023 consent agenda.

  • P802.15.3-RevB Draft 4 to SA ballot

Motion: Approve sending IEEE P802.15.3-RevB-D4 to Standards Association ballot.

Confirm the CSD for P802.15.3-RevB in

https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0307-00-ACSD-p802-15-3ma.docx

Move: Powell

Second: Au

 

Supporting documentation can be found at: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/23/15-23-0084-02-03ma-report-to-ec-for-approval-of-p802-15-3-revb-to-go-to-sa-ballot.pptx

 

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG Chair & 802 LMSC Member

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant

 

 


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