Re: [802SEC] July Waiver
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This is specifically allowed for in the OM, individual experts for specific reason electronically. In person incurs a cost for which there needs to be a waiver.
James Gilb
On June 23, 2022 6:57:57 PM UTC, Clint Powell <cpowell@IEEE.ORG> wrote:
>George,Correct, not for general participation.
>Geoff,Correct, remote presentation and the immediate Q&A arising therefrom.
>Thank you all for the feedback. I'll proceed with the WG Chair designation route and make sure that it's documented in the WG mins, and the waiver request is withdrawn.
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>Best Regards,
>Clint Powell
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>Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant
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> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 11:39 AM, Geoff Thompson<thompson@IEEE.ORG> wrote: Clint-
>I'll be happy to speak out at the EC that according to the traditions of 802no fee waiver is necessary if Lakshmi's participation is limited to her remote presentation and the immediate Q&A arising therefrom. That has nothing to do with it being a hybrid meeting.
>The fact that it is a hybrid meeting fogs the question but it doesn't change the underlying principle.
>Good that we got this clear ahead of time.
>Thanks,
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> On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:30:23 AM PDT, George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com> wrote:
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>Thanks, Clint – I’ll defer to others whether we need to discuss – but from my perspective, I think it’s fine, with the understanding that this is for a specific-topic requested presentaiton and not a fee waiver for general attendance.
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>From: Clint Powell <clintonpowell@ymail.com> On Behalf OfClint Powell
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 11:20 AM
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>Cc: cpowell@ieee.org; George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] July Waiver
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>George,
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>My concern was that since this is a hybrid mtg., where remote participation is occurring and those participants have to pay the registration fee, I wanted to cover all my bases. If the hybrid mtg. has no bearing on the policy as stated below and it holds regardless and I don’t need a waiver from the EC in this instance, then I’m fine with removing the request all together.
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>Best Regards,
>Clint Powell
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>IEEE 802.15 WG - Chair
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>Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant
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>From: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:59 AM
>To: cpowell@ieee.org; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] July Waiver
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>Clint – after some offline discussions with a colleague at GM, I am a little confused as to whether this needs a fee waiver (allowing attendance in general) or whether this is allowed as making a specific-topic requested presentation to the WG via electronic attendance which is allowed at the discretion of the WG chair under section 5 (2nd paragraph) of the 802 LMSC Operations Manual:
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>Under section 5 (IEEE 802 LMSC sessions) of the IEEE 802 LMSC Operations Manual, the following is allowed, which looks like the case here:
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>The Working Group Chair may designate specific individual experts who are allowed to
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>participate in Working Group discussions via electronic means during a face-to-face meeting for
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>the benefit of the group. These individuals are not considered to be attending the meeting and so
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>they are not required to pay meeting fees and they do not get participation credit. The
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>participation of these individuals should be limited to specific technical topics. Such participation
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>shall be documented in the minutes of the Working Group meeting.
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>-can you clarify?
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>If you think it still needs a fee waiver, I would request we pull from the consent agenda for brief discussion, if it doesn’t need a fee waiver, then it doesn’t need to be on the consent agenda. However, in either case, if it is truly just to provide a remote presentation on a limited topic at the request of the WG, and not for general attendance at the session (perhaps in exchange for the presentation), then I don’t see a problem with the request.
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>-george
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>From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>On Behalf Of Clint Powell
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:36 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: [802SEC] July Waiver
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>Colleagues,
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>I have one waiver request for the July Plenary opening EC agenda. If possible, I would request to add this to the consent agenda.
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>Motion: Approve the following fee waiver for the July IEEE 802 Plenary
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>Moved: Clint Powell
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>Second: Jon Rosdahl
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>Lakshmi Thanayankizil
>lakshmi.thanayankizil@gm.com
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>GM
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>Feature Owner - Connectivity at General Motors
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>Present on trends on vehicle wireless connectivity in 1) the WG15 WNG and/or 2) the TG6ma sessions which is working on a draft amendment for VAN/BAN networks.
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>Best Regards,
>Clint Powell
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>IEEE 802.15 WG - Chair
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>Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant
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