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Re: [802SEC] July Waiver

George,
Correct, not for general participation.

Geoff,
Correct, remote presentation and the immediate Q&A arising therefrom.

Thank you all for the feedback. I'll proceed with the WG Chair designation route and make sure that it's documented in the WG mins, and the waiver request is withdrawn.

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG - Chair

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant



On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 11:39 AM, Geoff Thompson
<thompson@IEEE.ORG> wrote:
Clint-

I'll be happy to speak out at the EC that according to the traditions of 802
no fee waiver is necessary if Lakshmi's participation is limited to her remote presentation and the immediate Q&A arising therefrom. That has nothing to do with it being a hybrid meeting.

The fact that it is a hybrid meeting fogs the question but it doesn't change the underlying principle.

Good that we got this clear ahead of time.

Thanks,

Geoff


On Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:30:23 AM PDT, George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com> wrote:


Thanks, Clint – I’ll defer to others whether we need to discuss – but from my perspective, I think it’s fine, with the  understanding that this is for a specific-topic requested presentaiton and not a fee waiver for general attendance.

 

From: Clint Powell <clintonpowell@ymail.com> On Behalf Of Clint Powell
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 11:20 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Cc: cpowell@ieee.org; George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
Subject: RE: [802SEC] July Waiver

 

George,

My concern was that since this is a hybrid mtg., where remote participation is occurring and those participants have to pay the registration fee, I wanted to cover all my bases. If the hybrid mtg. has no bearing on the policy as stated below and it holds regardless and I don’t need a waiver from the EC in this instance, then I’m fine with removing the request all together.

 

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG - Chair

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant

 

 

 

From: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 10:59 AM
To: cpowell@ieee.org; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] July Waiver

 

Clint – after some offline discussions with a colleague at GM, I am a little confused as to whether this needs a fee waiver (allowing attendance in general) or whether this is allowed as making a specific-topic requested presentation to the WG via electronic attendance which is allowed at the discretion of the WG chair under section 5 (2nd paragraph) of the 802 LMSC Operations Manual:

 

Under section 5 (IEEE 802 LMSC sessions) of the IEEE 802 LMSC Operations Manual, the following is allowed, which looks like the case here:

 

The Working Group Chair may designate specific individual experts who are allowed to

participate in Working Group discussions via electronic means during a face-to-face meeting for

the benefit of the group. These individuals are not considered to be attending the meeting and so

they are not required to pay meeting fees and they do not get participation credit. The

participation of these individuals should be limited to specific technical topics. Such participation

shall be documented in the minutes of the Working Group meeting.

 

 

-can you clarify?

 

If you think it still needs a fee waiver, I would request we pull from the consent agenda for brief discussion, if it doesn’t need a fee waiver, then it doesn’t need to be on the consent agenda.  However, in either case, if it is truly just to provide a remote presentation on a limited topic at the request of the WG, and not for general attendance at the session (perhaps in exchange for the presentation), then I don’t see a problem with the request.

 

-george

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org> On Behalf Of Clint Powell
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2022 8:36 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] July Waiver

 

Colleagues,

I have one waiver request for the July Plenary opening EC agenda.  If possible, I would request to add this to the consent agenda.

 

Motion:  Approve the following fee waiver for the July IEEE 802 Plenary

Moved:  Clint Powell

Second:  Jon Rosdahl

  

Participant

Affiliation

Rationale

Lakshmi Thanayankizil
lakshmi.thanayankizil@gm.com

GM

Feature Owner - Connectivity at General Motors

Present on trends on vehicle wireless connectivity in 1) the WG15 WNG and/or 2) the TG6ma sessions which is working on a draft amendment for VAN/BAN networks.

 

 

Best Regards,
Clint Powell

IEEE 802.15 WG - Chair

Meta Platforms - Wireless Standards Consultant

 

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