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Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments



Hello Andrew,

Regarding Roger's comments:

a) I agree with Roger's suggestion to delete the word "Defer".  The sentence describes the situation adequately I think we agree. "defer" does not add anything - yes we are deferring to IEEE-SA, but that is not the same usage of the value (Accept/Reject/Defer) as is used with the other comments responses.
b) Regarding the suggestion to delete "all the" - I see no harm in this, and it is true that this document does not provide THE response to the SE-001 etc. comments (it provides a statement on where THE response will come from).

Would you please make the changes and post the r7?

Thanks very much,

Dorothy

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Dorothy Stanley

Hewlett Packard Enterprise

dorothy.stanley@hpe.com

+1 630-363-1389



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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments
 

G’day Roger.

 

I started editing and realised the first issue is not an issue because we do indeed provide a response to all comments.

 

On the second issue, we could change defer to something else but I am not sure there is a need given the following sentence clarifies the meaning

 

Andrew

 

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

G’day Roger

 

I will fix the first issue in v7

 

Defer was not intended to mean delay, but rather that we are deferring to IEEE SA to resolve it. That said, I will delate it

 

Andrew

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> On Behalf Of Roger Marks
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2021 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

I suggest this edit:

This liaison statement from IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee  (IEEE 802) to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 provides responses to all the comments received during the 60-day ballot on IEEE 802.11ax-2021.

Also, I think it would be better to delete the word "Defer", since we aren't asking for the comment resolution to be deferred. 

 

Cheers,

 

Roger

On Nov 2, 2021, 5:23 PM -0600, Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@qti.qualcomm.com>, wrote:

Paul,

 

                Thanks.

 

Regards,

Steve

 

From: Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net>
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

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Steve,

 

My understanding is that it will come directly from the SA President, SASB and BoG are not involved.

 

Regards,

 

--Paul

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@QTI.QUALCOMM.COM>

Date: 11/2/21 18:20 (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

Dorothy,

 

                Thanks for providing the link to the document.

 

Paul,

 

                When you say SA will provide a response to the IPR-related comments, will this come from the Standards Board, or the Board of Governors, or some other part of the SA?  I was not clear on what it means for SA to respond. Thanks for any clarification on this.

 

Thanks,

Steve

 

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Hello Geoff, all,

 

The updated 11ax response document, which will be the subject of EC motion approval, is posted, see https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1400-06-0jtc-response-to-comments-on-802-11ax-in-60-day-ballot.docx .

 

Thanks,

 

Dorothy

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Motion: JTC1 liaison regarding PSDO 11ax comments

Approve liaison of the following comment responses to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 under the PSDO agreement:
IEEE Std 802.11ax-2021: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/21/11-21-1400-06-0jtc-response-to-comments-on-802-11ax-in-60-day-ballot.docx

 

Moved: Stanley
Seconded: [pending confirmation]

WG11 result: 49-16-35

 

 

 

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Dorothy Stanley

Hewlett Packard Enterprise

dorothy.stanley@hpe.com

+1 630-363-1389

 


From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> on behalf of Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

Geoff,  Yes.  Regards, --Paul

 

------ Original Message ------

From: "Geoff Thompson" <thompson@ieee.org>

Sent: 11/2/2021 1:49:16 PM

Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status of IEEE 802 response to JTC1 regarding 802.11ax PSDO comments

 

Paul-

Will we get a chance to see the amended/edited responses before the EC meeting?

Geoff

 

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 10:30:14 AM PDT, Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:

 

 

Dear EC Members,

 

As you may recall, at our 05 October 2021 teleconference we decided to defer approval of an IEEE 802 response to the JTC1 PSDO ballot 802.11ax comments.  Since then I've been in several discussions with SA staff, legal and relevant 802 EC members.  After much discussion, the SA has directed 802 to only respond to the technical comments, while the SA will respond to the IPR related comments and include the 802 responses in the SA's communication back to JTC1.  This is expected to be a quick process, as we will have a motion to approve the 802 responses to technical comments at the opening EC that I expect will be non-controversial, upon which the SA will incorporate them into their response to JTC1, which is expected to be promptly executed by the SA President

 

We can discuss this in a bit more depth at our opening EC meeting during the motion to approve the 802 response, but because we have a packed agenda, I will try to limit the time to 5 minutes or so.  Feel free to contact me directly if you want to discuss this item in greater detail.

 

Regards,

 

--Paul


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