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Paul, I am going to have to disagree with the individuals asking for video. The reason is simple – user bandwidth need is undefined for a participant. I have personally experienced calls where video has caused some individuals to not be able to hear the audio as a result of the video. So it is not just the cost of bandwidth needed for the system, which one can argue could be solved with money, but at the user end, which is beyond our control. Regards John From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> On Behalf Of Glenn Parsons Paul, I think the participant requirement for a laptop is overstated. The participant simply needs a device that can run the conferencing app (Webex, Zoom, etc) and sufficient network bandwidth. The device can be a laptop, desktop, tablet, smartphone, etc. The limitation of joining by “mobile phone” should be changed to just “phone” or dial-in by phone as that is the intent. On the video, I would contend that the meetings cannot be equitable in mixed mode until all participants can see each other. Facial and body expressions are a means of communication that is often taken for granted when we are in-person. While I understand that bandwidth is a factor, I don’t think that is a reason to prohibit it. Instead I think it should be an option for the speaker to have video enabled on their device. On screen sharing, I agree that this is required. However, having done this pre-COVID in a large room with a small screen, I would note that this will cause delay when the presenter changes. The presenter has to both project and share the correct screen to the conferencing app. Cheers, Glenn. From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich Dear 802 EC Members, We have been kicking around the concept of 'hybrid meetings' for a while now. I would like to re-brand them as 'mixed mode sessions'. In order to open the discussion up to a wider group, George and I thought it would be good to share a draft a "Best Practices for Mixed Mode IEEE 802 LMSC Sessions" document among the EC for wider discussion and refinement. My objective for the The Best Practices document will at least get the EC on the same page and remove ambiguities or potential misinterpretations when we discuss Mixed Mode Session. My attempt at an initial draft is at https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0157-00-00EC-best-practices-for-mixed-mode-ieee-802-lmsc-sessions.docx. I know it is incomplete and missing a lot of detail -- please feel free to add what is missing or correct my mistakes. I will allocate time during the opening EC meeting to briefly discuss this topic, with the intent of setting aside 60-90 minutes during the July plenary for a suitable day/time to dive into the details. I know there will be a lot of debate and discussion, let's try to get to consensus on what a fair and equitable Mixed Mode Session is. Then we can determine if any policy changes need to be made. Regards, --Paul p.s., the IEEE Computer Society has tried to assist on this topic with https://www.computer.org/conferences/organize-a-conference/organizer-resources/hybrid-conference-options. I know we're not even close to the structure of a conference, but perhaps some of the material may be useful in getting us to think more deeply on the subject, like · How to Create Seriously Impressive Hybrid Events: splash To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-SEC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-SEC&A=1 To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-SEC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-SEC&A=1 To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-SEC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=STDS-802-SEC&A=1 |