hello all,
like others, sorry for the many emails, just a very dynamic time.
so further update to below after a few calls and emails today. the best
way to extend out the date of when we file and ensure we don’t file sooner
than we want is for the ballot to fail. then with the extra time the FCC
has now approved is to start another motion, which could be at one of our
calls coming up.
to add a little on why we much prefer to file closer to the actual due date
is not to give others a heads up and they then add to their reply’s things
about us, that we cannot rebuttal in time officially. this is a normal and
expected practice by many, especially the more significant entities.
now to Glenn’s observation. in yesterday’s .18 weekly call the notable
consensus was to not disturb the reply comments that the EC has already
spent time with and have provided good feedback on, keep in place and we
know we would have good reply comments ready to file (if it passed). at
that time, we thought there was a way to just shift the date and thought
let the current ballot finish up. then work on a supplemental with the
limited time we will have on it, and if it came together great, if it
didn’t, we would have the primary reply comments already ready to go. in
other words, the lower risk path. now learning the ballot needs to fail
to catch up with the FCC date change, will review that and what to do with
the filing(s), will have a few hours to work on that.
so lessons learned, after 8-9 years of always being sure a date is in the
motion for these, we should review that and use something that will allow
the regulator to change their date. this is just the first time for us
that i can remember, we got caught.
so to file closer to the new due date, we will need the ballot to fail. i
understand votes can be changed.
again sorry for re-do, just trying to keep up,
stay safe all,
jay holcomb
802.18
From: Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org>
Date: Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of reply comments to
the FCC NPRMon revisiting and re-configuration of the 5.9GHz band
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>:
hello all,
from my notes below, in .18's telecon today, with the FCC
changing/extending the due date out for reply comments (after this ballot
was started) we will be looking if we can come up with a supplemental
(additional) filing to add a few more points to support our concerns, to
send to the FCC.
the current ballot remains valid except it had the original FCC due date.
with the FCC changing its due date, the normal, and original plan, is not
to send in reply comments until sooner to the actual due date. we are
working on how to adjust our filing date to line up with the new FCC due
date.
dynamic times,
jay
From: Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of reply comments
to the FCC NPRMon revisiting and re-configuration of the 5.9GHz band
To: Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
thanks Roger,
all your points look good and add some nice editorial clarity, need to
check on the reference yet though. Jon, got your typo also.
all, as mentioned on the call last week there was a possibility of an
extension, but had to cover if it didn't come. well, it came out mid-day
today. the FCC is okay with reply comments out to 27 April now, + 3
weeks. it will be a discussion point on the .18 weekly call thursday, stay
the course, do we explore doing updates, etc. i will pass along the
outcome of the discussion.
stay safe,
jay
From: Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Motion+++ Approval of reply comments
to the FCC NPRMon revisiting and re-configuration of the 5.9GHz band
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Jay,
Comments attached.
Cheers,
Roger
On Mar 25, 2020, 8:37 AM -0600, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org>, wrote:
typo "Excutive" Section 2 - "Executive"
My vote is abstain at this time.
Jon
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:10 AM Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org> wrote:
Dear LMSC Members,
With this email I would like to announce the start of an LMSC(EC) ballot on
reply comments to the FCC on response to their NPRM proposing
re-configuration of the 5.9GHz band from ITS to unlicensed and ITS and
allowing C-V2X instead of just DSRC (802.11p and .11bd). The deadline for
reply comments is 06 April 20, a Monday.
Paul has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC(EC) 10-day electronic ballot
on the motion below to approve the comments to the FCC. This EC motion is
per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1 Procedure, P&P 7.1 b) (majority response) and P&P
7.1.2 (2/3 approval of votes cast) for communication with government bodies
and public statements. *With that we would like to see everyone
respond.*
• *Motion:* Approve reply comments in
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/20/18-20-0045-04-0000-reply-comments-fcc19-138-nprm-revisiting-5-850-5-925-ghz-band.docx to
FCC’s NPRM (ET Docket No. 19-138) on Use of the 5.850-5.925 GHz Band and
for submission to the FCC by 06 April 2020. With the Chair of 802.18 authorized
to make editorial changes as necessary.
Approved in the RR-TAG: _10_ / _1_ / _1_
Mover: Jay Holcomb
Seconder: Dorothy Stanley
Start of ballot: 24 March 2020
Close of ballot: 03 April 2020
*Reference documents:*
*The NPRM:*
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0163-02-0000-fcc19-138-nprm-revisiting-use-of-the-5-850-5-925-ghz-band.docx
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mentor.ieee.org_802.18_dcn_19_18-2D19-2D0163-2D02-2D0000-2Dfcc19-2D138-2Dnprm-2Drevisiting-2Duse-2Dof-2Dthe-2D5-2D850-2D5-2D925-2Dghz-2Dband.docx&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=sM92MJsieHSGZAPQFqPzOr94LaCO1gPf67sSAXFiVkw&s=AGOklP0dKtzcx3q5bKOXPjs8JmTbyFLO-S5fzyYdV6Q&e=>
*Proceeding OET 19-138:*
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/filings?proceedings_name=19-138&sort=date_disseminated,DESC
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.fcc.gov_ecfs_search_filings-3Fproceedings-5Fname-3D19-2D138-26sort-3Ddate-5Fdisseminated-2CDESC&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=sM92MJsieHSGZAPQFqPzOr94LaCO1gPf67sSAXFiVkw&s=Gi09ok7zfKjfnRdSFcdtRhqx-hm9v8lqvYs-K7bZYis&e=>
*IEEE 802 original comments:*
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/20/18-20-0020-18-0000-comments-on-fcc19-138-nprm-revisiting-use-of-the-5-850-5-925-ghz-band.docx
Regards,
Jay Holcomb
Liberty Lake (Spokane), WA
Itron, Inc.
IEEE 802.18 Chair
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