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The solution which we
have proposed to use in 19.3 is to refer to it by the handy name
"Sub 1 GHz (S1G) PHY" which is the same name used in the
published amendment and the not yet completed revision. Since
the industry refers to "11ah" we have a paragraph that explains
the term "802.11ah" and "Sub 1GHz (S1G) PHY" are equivalent.
In this case we are concerned about people who will read the
standard (recommended practice) in the future and may know only
what is in 802.11 and not the history of how it came into
802.11. You might get away with something like "Sub 1 GHz
(S1G) PHY, also known in the industry as 802.11ah, ...
maybe that helps.
On 1/12/2020 7:40 PM, Jay Holcomb
wrote:
hi
James,
thank
you for the inputs with my question and with our
discussion. with Clause 23 not in the published .11 standard
yet, will plan to use
‘ah’ and the name of the phy to your point, since it is the
current published
standard. granted once the rollup comes
out things change. i will get a r03 out soon
with the editorial edits.
also,
i will vote approve (and early close was already met.)
jay
From: James
P. K. Gilb
<Gilb_IEEE@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at
4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day ECMotion+++
Approval of comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence
exemption for Wireless Telegraphy Devices consultation
To: Jay Holcomb < jholcomb@ieee.org>, < STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
All
I think that rather than refer to it by clause, we should
just use the
handy name provided by IEEE 802.11, i.e., "Sub 1 GHz (S1G)
PHY" and
leave the clause out as this number can change.
James Gilb
On 1/11/20 2:14 PM, Jay Holcomb wrote:
> yep, if i go into IEEE Std 802.11ah i see sub clause 23
just fine.
>
> so is the convention stating IEEE Std 802.11 Clause 23,
that folks know to
> look through all the published amendments also to find
the clause? if so
> then i can make an r03 to be clear what is the latest,
with what you sent
> Roger.
> thanks
> jay
>
> From: Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
> Date: Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day
ECMotion+++ Approval of
> comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence
exemption for Wireless
> Telegraphy Devices consultation
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
>
>> Tim is right, but you can also look right in IEEE
Std 802.11ah, where you
>> will find "23. Sub 1 GHz (S1G) PHY specification."
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Roger
>> On Jan 11, 2020, 9:18 AM -0700, Tim Godfrey <tim.godfrey@ieee.org>,
wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jay,
>>
>> I vote approve.
>>
>> Jumping in on your question for Roger, IEEE Std
802.11-2016 does not
>> incorporate 802.11ah. S1G is in Clause 23 of
802.11REVmd (currently in SA
>> ballot)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim.
>>
>>
>> At 08:16 AM 1/11/2020, you wrote:
>>
>> HI Roger,
>> the clarity you have added looks great with one
question. where you are
>> updating the 802.11ah to 802.11 Clause 23, i looked
on the disk of
>> standards we received a few weeks ago and 802.11ah
amendment is in the
>> 802.11 folder and not seeing any reference to it in
the base 802.11-2016
>> standard and it only goes to clause 22. how are
you looking at 802.11
>> clause 23?
>> thanks
>> jay
>>
>> From: *Roger Marks* <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
>> Date: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 3:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day
ECMotion+++ Approval of
>> comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence
exemption for Wireless
>> Telegraphy Devices consultation
>> To: < STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>,
Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org
>> Jay,
>>
>> I vote Approve with the attached comments.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Roger
>> On Jan 6, 2020, 6:21 AM -0700, Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org>, wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear LMSC Members,
>>
>>
>>
>> With this email I would like to announce the start
of an LMSC(EC) Early
>> Close ballot on comments to Ofcom (UK) in response
to their changes to the
>> licence exemption for Wireless Telegraphy Devices
consultation. The
>> deadline there for comments is 17Jan20.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC(EC)
Early Close 10-day
>> electronic ballot on the motion below to approve
the comments to the
>> Ofcom. This EC motion is per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1
Procedure, P&P 7.1 b)
>> (majority response) and P&P 7.1.2 (2/3 approval
of votes cast) for
>> communication with government bodies and public
statements. With that we
>> would like to see everyone respond.
>>
>>
>>
>> · Motion: Move to approve the comments in
>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0161-02-0000-ofcom-consultation-comments-ieee-802-exemptions-wireless-telegraphy.odt
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mentor.ieee.org_802.18_dcn_19_18-2D19-2D0161-2D02-2D0000-2Dofcom-2Dconsultation-2Dcomments-2Dieee-2D802-2Dexemptions-2Dwireless-2Dtelegraphy.odt&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=9llYEypFJkPPE0PHplIhyn96D7knvi2X8QIKU9nj5b8&s=L42rWdSrfUew0LZDQEyKGuiBPdN7ftcgLJm9DJ_3TMg&e=>
>> ; response to Ofcom on changes to the licence
exemption for Wireless
>> Telegraphy Devices consultation. With the Chair of
802.18 authorized to
>> make editorial changes as necessary and send to
Ofcom on or before 17
>> January 2020 (UK).
>>
>>
>>
>> Approved in the RR-TAG: 6 / 0 / 0
>>
>>
>>
>> Mover: Jay Holcomb
>>
>> Seconder: Dorothy Stanley
>>
>>
>>
>> Start of ballot: 06 January 2020
>>
>> Close of ballot: 16 January 2020,
>>
>> though early close will help to meet Ofcom’s
deadline
>>
>>
>>
>> Reference documents:
>>
>> The Ofcom consultation:
>>
>> •
>> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0160-00-0000-ofcom-consultation-exemptions-wireless-telegraphy.pdf
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mentor.ieee.org_802.18_dcn_19_18-2D19-2D0160-2D00-2D0000-2Dofcom-2Dconsultation-2Dexemptions-2Dwireless-2Dtelegraphy.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=9llYEypFJkPPE0PHplIhyn96D7knvi2X8QIKU9nj5b8&s=0NHmOE8EX2msW5ZQSDziZNlf98MfY4V9H3uk0nxij9w&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting
rules' of the IEEE 802
>> LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations
Manual, this is notice that,
>> to ensure the release is provided in a timely
manner, this ballot may close
>> early once sufficient responses are received to
clearly decide a matter.
>> Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter
will be based on the
>> required majority for a motion under subclause
7.1.1 'Actions requiring
>> approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other
motions brought to the floor
>> by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor
Chair)' of the IEEE 802
>> LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and
Procedures.
>>
>>
>>
>> note: the comments are in Open Office format, as it
came from Ofcom. MS
>> Word does tend to affect the format some.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jay Holcomb
>>
>> Liberty Lake (Spokane), WA
>>
>> Itron, Inc.
>>
>> IEEE 802.18 Chair
>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jay Holcomb
>> IEEE 802.18
>> Itron, Liberty Lake (Spokane), WA
>>
>>
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