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Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day ECMotion+++ Approval of comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence exemption for Wireless Telegraphy Devices consultation

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I think that rather than refer to it by clause, we should just use the handy name provided by IEEE 802.11, i.e., "Sub 1 GHz (S1G) PHY" and leave the clause out as this number can change. 

James Gilb

On 1/11/20 2:14 PM, Jay Holcomb wrote:

yep, if i go into IEEE Std 802.11ah i see sub clause 23 just fine.

so is the convention stating IEEE Std 802.11 Clause 23, that folks know to
look through all the  published amendments also to find the clause? if so
then i can make an r03 to be clear what is the latest, with what you sent
Roger.
thanks
jay

From: Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
Date: Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day ECMotion+++ Approval of
comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence exemption for Wireless
Telegraphy Devices consultation
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>


Tim is right, but you can also look right in IEEE Std 802.11ah, where you
will find "23. Sub 1 GHz (S1G) PHY specification."

Cheers,

Roger
On Jan 11, 2020, 9:18 AM -0700, Tim Godfrey <tim.godfrey@ieee.org>, wrote:

Hi Jay,

I vote approve.

Jumping in on your question for Roger, IEEE Std 802.11-2016 does not
incorporate 802.11ah.  S1G is in Clause 23 of 802.11REVmd (currently in SA
ballot)

Thanks,
Tim.


At 08:16 AM 1/11/2020, you wrote:

HI Roger,
the clarity you have added looks great with one question.  where you are
updating the 802.11ah to 802.11 Clause 23, i looked on the disk of
standards we received a few weeks ago and 802.11ah amendment is in the
802.11 folder and not seeing any reference to it in the base 802.11-2016
standard and it only goes to clause 22.   how are you looking at 802.11
clause 23?
thanks
jay

From: *Roger Marks* <r.b.marks@ieee.org>
Date: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ Early Close 10-day ECMotion+++ Approval of
comments to Ofcom on their changes tothe licence exemption for Wireless
Telegraphy Devices consultation
To: < STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>, Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org
Jay,

I vote Approve with the attached comments.

Cheers,

Roger
On Jan 6, 2020, 6:21 AM -0700, Jay Holcomb <jholcomb@ieee.org>, wrote:


Dear LMSC Members,



With this email I would like to announce the start of an LMSC(EC) Early
Close ballot on comments to Ofcom (UK) in response to their changes to the
licence exemption for Wireless Telegraphy Devices consultation.  The
deadline there for comments is 17Jan20.



Paul has delegated to me to conduct a LMSC(EC) Early Close 10-day
electronic ballot on the motion below to approve the comments to the
Ofcom.  This EC motion is per IEEE 802 OM 7.2.1 Procedure, P&P 7.1 b)
(majority response) and P&P 7.1.2 (2/3 approval of votes cast) for
communication with government bodies and public statements.  With that we
would like to see everyone respond.



·         Motion: Move to approve the comments in
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0161-02-0000-ofcom-consultation-comments-ieee-802-exemptions-wireless-telegraphy.odt
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mentor.ieee.org_802.18_dcn_19_18-2D19-2D0161-2D02-2D0000-2Dofcom-2Dconsultation-2Dcomments-2Dieee-2D802-2Dexemptions-2Dwireless-2Dtelegraphy.odt&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=9llYEypFJkPPE0PHplIhyn96D7knvi2X8QIKU9nj5b8&s=L42rWdSrfUew0LZDQEyKGuiBPdN7ftcgLJm9DJ_3TMg&e=>
; response to Ofcom on changes to the licence exemption for Wireless
Telegraphy Devices consultation.  With the Chair of 802.18 authorized to
make editorial changes as necessary and send to Ofcom on or before 17
January 2020 (UK).



Approved in the RR-TAG: 6 / 0 / 0



Mover:     Jay Holcomb

Seconder:  Dorothy Stanley



Start of ballot: 06 January 2020

Close of ballot: 16 January 2020,

though early close will help to meet Ofcom’s deadline



Reference documents:

The Ofcom consultation:

•
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0160-00-0000-ofcom-consultation-exemptions-wireless-telegraphy.pdf
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mentor.ieee.org_802.18_dcn_19_18-2D19-2D0160-2D00-2D0000-2Dofcom-2Dconsultation-2Dexemptions-2Dwireless-2Dtelegraphy.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=pqcuzKEN_84c78MOSc5_fw&r=z8R-nWJ8GIxwjOjNKhEFByb-tZ6XE3GZXWSggNdVo-w&m=9llYEypFJkPPE0PHplIhyn96D7knvi2X8QIKU9nj5b8&s=0NHmOE8EX2msW5ZQSDziZNlf98MfY4V9H3uk0nxij9w&e=>



Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE 802
LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice that,
to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner, this ballot may close
early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter.
Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter will be based on the
required majority for a motion under subclause 7.1.1 'Actions requiring
approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other motions brought to the floor
by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor Chair)' of the IEEE 802
LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and Procedures.



note: the comments are in Open Office format, as it came from Ofcom.  MS
Word does tend to affect the format some.



Regards,

Jay Holcomb

Liberty Lake (Spokane), WA

Itron, Inc.

IEEE 802.18 Chair


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Regards,
Jay Holcomb
IEEE 802.18
Itron, Liberty Lake (Spokane), WA



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