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Re: [802SEC] reciprocal attendance credit: policy and current status of home/target group assignments

John,

I think your concern is about whether credit should be granted in the target group. For me, your comment also raises the additional question of when credit should be granted in the home group.

The prior sentence says: "The Chair of the home group shall determine if maintaining credit will be allowed for that home group while attending a target group." 

So I think the person shall obtain "attendance credit" in the home group but obtains "maintaining credit" only if so determined by the home group Chair. These seem to be contradictory. So perhaps the second sentence was intended to be conditional on the first. In other words, maybe it should begin, "If so allowed, then..."

I think that, in practice, the home group credit is at the Chair's discretion. For example, a target group "is a Working Group or TAG," but often the Chair will designate a particular subgroup of WG, or a particular meeting, rather than an entire WG.

I don't think any of this is relevant to the issue you raised.

Roger


On April 16, 2019 at 7:53:34 AM, John Messenger (jmessenger@advaoptical.com) wrote:

Hi Paul,

802.1 grants reciprocal credit to members attending 802.11 sessions.
I was not aware that 'A person registering attendance in a target group shall obtain attendance credit in the persons home group and the target group.' By using this mechanism it would appear that a person could obtain voting rights in two groups, which I don't think was the intention.
-- John

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Subject: [802SEC] reciprocal attendance credit: policy and current status of home/target group assignments

James,

Thank you for pointing me to the relevant text.

Dear 802 EC Members,,

As appropriate if reciprocal attendance credit applies to your group, please let me know which 'target groups' you have approved for your 'home groups'. Please see the governing WG P&P below as identified by James. Thank you.

Regards,

--Paul

------ Original Message ------
From: "James P. K. Gilb" <jgilb@yahoo.com>
To: "paul nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>; "Jon Rosdahl"
<jrosdahl@ieee.org>; "Roger Marks" <r.b.marks@ieee.org>; "Subir Das"
<sdas@perspectalabs.com>; "Jay Holcomb" <jholcomb@ieee.org>; "Tim Godfrey" <tim.godfrey@ieee.org>
Sent: 4/16/2019 1:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: reciprocal attendance credit policy

>Paul
>
>It is in the WG P&P. I spent a lot of time persuading everyone to accept my terminology of home WG and target WG. It all resides in 4.2.4 Maintaining Credit:
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>To encourage attendance in certain target Working Groups whose subject matter is of significance to a Working Group, the Working Group Chair may designate other Working Groups as target groups.
>
>A home group is a Working Group or TAG in which a person is a member (i.e., has voting rights). A target group is a Working Group or TAG in which the person is attending and the Working Group Chair of the home group has approved as target group. Maintaining credit is meeting participation credit that is registered in the home group while the person is attending a meeting in the target group.
>
>The Chair of the home group shall determine if maintaining credit will be allowed for that home group while attending a target group. A person registering attendance in a target group shall obtain attendance credit in the persons home group and the target group. If the person has more than one home group for which the Chair of the home group has allowed maintaining credit, then the person shall select which home group for which they will be given credit.
>------------------------------
>
>James Gilb
>
>On 4/15/19 11:45 AM, paul nikolich wrote:
>>James, Roger, Jon, Subir, Jay, Tim,
>>I've been looking for the documented 802 reciprocal attendance policy without success, if you know where it is, please point me it. Thank you.
>>Regards,
>>--Paul
>>

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