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Re: [802SEC] +++10 day ECM (early close)+++ FCC NOI Response

Rich,
   I maintain my approve vote on 18-17-0114r8:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/17/18-17-0114-08-0000-ieee-802-response-to-fcc-17-104.docx
with the footnote proposed to be added by Paul.
Regards,
Jon

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On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Kennedy, Rich <rich.kennedy@hpe.com> wrote:

Dear EC Members:

 

Attached is the final version of the FCC NOI response. It is based on the version “7c”. which includes the changes agreed to by Bob and Roger, and the formatting required for submission. Please review ASAP so that it can be processed by the GPPC prior to uploading via the FCC ECF system on October 2nd. Removal of the document number header is all that is required for submission.

 

Thank you.

 

Rich Kennedy

 

Director, Global Spectrum Strategy

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Board Director, Dynamic Spectrum Alliance

Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++10 day ECM (early close)+++ FCC NOI Response

 

All,

 

I agree with as well.  The 802 statement will comply with policy, period.  I believe the statement tweaks Roger and Bob agreed to today result in such text.

 

Since there is a bit of confusion regarding which version is up for approval, I recommend Rich upload the most recent Roger/Bob revision and inform the EC asap.

 

Regards,

 

--Paul

 

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Date: 9/20/17 1:33 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++10 day ECM (early close)+++ FCC NOI Response

 

I agree as well.

 

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Kennedy, Rich <rich.kennedy@hpe.com> wrote:

Paul:

 

I strongly agree with Adrian on this. We cannot possibly represent every IEEE standard. Just as industries have opposing views on spectrum, the standards that drive their technologies will also. IEEE should be satisfied with the fact that they do drive these industries, allow different opinions under their umbrella, and let the regulators make those decisions.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

Hello Paul,

" and clearly acknowledge that other technologies have different and conflicting and/or competing interests" - this is speculation.
I oppose its inclusion in our response.

IMHO, If other technologies have different or competing interests,   it is up to them to represent those interests in their own response.

 

Sincerely,
 
Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
mailto: adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org
Phone: +447342178905
Skype: adrian_stephens

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sep 18, 2017 6:41 PM, "Roger Marks" <r.b.marks@ieee.org> wrote:


On Sep 18, 2017, 8:06 PM -0600, Bob Heile <bheile@ieee.org>, wrote:

Hi Rich

I  must vote no with the changes proposed by Roger and Pat. What both propose substantially waters down the real potential to achieve meaningful coexistence and the statement that coexistence may be a real problem. I much prefer the language be left as it was in which case I would vote approve.

Regards

Bob


At 03:11 PM 9/18/2017 -0700, Pat Thaler wrote:

Rich,

Overall, the text looks good. However, I've consulted with some of my wireless colleagues and we have concerns that some of the content is premature.

Specifically, in III, it is too early to take higher power levels completely off the table with "limits  equal to the U-NII-1 band". Therefore, we would prefer "with limits equal to the current 5 GHz U-NII rules as appropriate." That leaves open the potential for 4 W EIRP in circumstances where it technically justifiable.Â

Also, while the challenges of protecting incumbents are different in the different bands, we think the bands should be addressed as they are able. Lower power and/or indoor only use may mitigate the concerns in U-NII-6 and UNII-8 bands so we aren't comfortable with the suggestion to addess U-NII-5 and U-NII-7 first. We suggest this replacement for the last sentence in III: "Therefore the bands should be released as soon as possible for each band. "

Regards,
Pat

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Roger Marks <r.b.marks@ieee.org> wrote:

Rich,

I vote Approve, but please consider my attached suggestions for improvement. Most are strictly editorial, but some are more substantive; for example, I believe that Footnote 2 contains an erroneous reference.

Regards,

Roger

On September 15, 2017 at 4:53:03 PM, Kennedy, Rich (rich.kennedy@hpe.com) wrote:

 

Dear EC members,

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On Thursday, the 14th of September the IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group approved an input document to the FCC Notice of Inquiry entitled “Expanding Flexible Use in Mid-Band Spectrum Between 3.7 and 24 GHz†.

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The vote in the TAG was 15/0/0.

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I would now like to proceed to the motion in respect to this submission I am seeking an early close (see below), as this is a somewhat urgent matter, as Paul has been instructed to run this response through the IEEE BoD Global Public Policy Committee process, which will take some time.  The deadline for filing is 02 October 2017. Paul has delegated the conduct of the EC electronic ballot to me.

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Motion

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Approve https://mentorieee.org/802.18/dcn/17/18-17-0114-06-0000-ieee-802-response-to-fcc-17-104.docx as communication to the U.S. Federal Communications Commission, granting the IEEE LMSC chair (or his delegate) editorial license.

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Moved by: Rich Kennedy, on behalf of the TAG

Seconded by: Adrian Stephens

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Start of ballot: Friday 15 September 2017

End of ballot: Monday 24 September 2017 AOE

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Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner, this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter. Sufficient responses to clearly decide this matter will be based on the required majority for a motion under subclause 7.1.1 'Actions requiring approval by a majority vote' item (h), 'Other motions brought to the floor by members (when deemed in order by the Sponsor Chair)' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies and Procedures.

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Thank you.

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Rich Kennedy

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Director, Global Spectrum Strategy

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Board Director, Dynamic Spectrum Alliance

Chair, IEEE 802.18 Radio Regulatory Technical Advisory Group

Chair Emeritus, IEEE 802.11af WLAN in TVWS

Chair, Wi-Fi Alliance Spectrum & Regulatory Task Group

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(737) 202-7014

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