Re: [802SEC] 802.15 responses to comments received on the 15.4 Revision PAR

[James Gilb <000008e8b69871c2-dmarc-request@ieee.org>]

Jon

You could also include for context the following scope and purpose from 
another revision PAR submitted for consideration at this meeting.

Scope: "The scope of this standard is to define one medium access 
control (MAC) and several physical layer (PHY) specifications for 
wireless connectivity for fixed, portable, and moving stations (STAs) 
within a local area."

Purpose: "The purpose of this standard is to provide wireless 
connectivity for fixed, portable, and moving stations within a local 
area. This standard also offers regulatory bodies a means of 
standardizing access to one or more frequency bands for the purpose of 
local area communication."

No specific bands or geographic regions are specified in the Scope or 
Purpose of this other revision PAR that has been submitted for 
consideration by the IEEE 802 Executive Committee.

I under the impression that the standard with this scope and purpose is 
a very well-written and is quite successful in the market.

So perhaps it is not necessary to list all of the bands in the scope or 
purpose?

Thanks for your time.

James Gilb

On 03/16/2017 03:06 PM, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
> Thanks Bob,
>    I will include your explanation and context when I present my report
> tomorrow.
> Regards,
> Jon
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> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Bob Heile <bheile@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jon
> >
> > To put this all in context., the scope of 15.4-2015 is: This standard
> > defines the physical layer (PHY) and *medium* access control (MAC)
> > sublayer specifications for low-data-rate wireless connectivity with
> > fixed, portable, and moving devices with no battery or very limited
> > battery consumption requirements. In addition, the standard provides modes
> > that allow for precision ranging. PHYs are defined for devices operating *various
> > license-free bands *in a variety of geographic regions. The scope of this
> > revision makes 2 changes. It corrects medum to media and deletes "various
> > license free bands" from the last sentence (both highlighted in red). The
> > result (which does indeed reflect reality) is: This standard defines the
> > physical layer (PHY) and *media* access control (MAC) sublayer
> > specifications for low-data-rate wireless connectivity with fixed,
> > portable, and moving devices with no battery or very limited battery
> > consumption requirements. In addition, the standard provides modes that
> > allow for precision ranging. PHYs are defined for devices operating in a
> > variety of geographic regions. BR
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > At 02:53 PM 3/16/2017 -0600, Jon Rosdahl wrote:
> >
> > The 802.11 PAR Review SC has the following rebuttal for 802.15 to consider
> > for their 802.15.4 PAR:
> >
> > Rebuttal comment to 802.15.4 Revision:
> > 802.11 comment:
> > 5.2 adding “and other†seems to change the scope significantly.  The
> > change seems to allow any band.
> >
> > Suggest to delete “and other†from the scope or alternatively identify
> > what are the “other bands†.
> >
> > 802.15 Response:
> > Accept-in-principle; delete “operating in various license-exempt and
> > other bands†resulting in “PHYs are defined for devices operating in a
> > variety of geographic regions.â€
> >
> > 802.11 Rebuttal:
> > The response does not address the concern of including “Any band†.Â
> > We would like to not have the scope expand without definition or bounds.
> > The phrase “devices operating in a variety of geographic regions†does
> > not provide any information.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jon
> > 802.11 PAR Review SC Chair
> >
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> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Bob Heile <bheile@ieee.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Attached is the comment resolution ppt and an updated PAR. Please let me
> > know if there are any comments and/or questions.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > Bob Heile, Ph.D
> >
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