While I am sympathetic to the motion, I don't see the need.
We have in the past consistently given full refunds for those that have
Visa/migration issues.
We also have always address Medical emergencies as well without a motion of
the EC.
The General Policy that we have followed, I Believe, is sufficient to
address each request for refund.
I see that trying to regulate good behavior is always fraught with wording
dependencies that someone may feel is enough and yet another wants
different wording.
I think that the sentiment from the EC is to be fair and just yet merciful
to the refund process.
Respectfully,
Jon
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Rolfe <ben@blindcreek.com> wrote:
Using that wording we will issue no refunds. The Whitehouse, INS and State
department have all issued "clarifications" which clearly state "green
card" holders (permanent residents) are not affected by the EO. Thus there
are no "green card holders" which are affected by the EO.
I am guessing this is not the point of the motion? My best guess is that
we wish to allow people who are afraid that, despite the reality, they may
not be allowed re-entry, to cancel without penalty? In which case I would
modify the wording:
Move that any attendee who has concerns that the immigration policy of the
United States or any other nation might prevent re-entry into their country
of residence following the march meeting be given a full refund of
registration fees upon cancellation.
That removes the requirement for 802 to determine who is affected, and is
not discriminatory against people residing in the US.
As I have no vote, I will state only a preference that the motion be
clear, non-discriminatory and within the ability of 802 to execute.
Hope this helps.
Ben
On 1/31/2017 12:49 AM, Adrian Stephens wrote:
Thank you Clint.
All - the tentative wording I have for such a motion follows.
Comments/corrections welcome.
Motion: Move that any US green card holder of a nationality affected by
recent US President
executive orders who believes they will be prevented from re-entering the
USA after the March 2017
meeting in Vancouver be given a full refund of registration fees paid on
cancellation.
Moved: Adrian Stephens
Seconded: Clint Chaplin
Best Regards,
Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
mailto: adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org
Phone: +1 (971) 203-2032 <(971)%20203-2032>
Phone: +447342178905 <+44%207342%20178905>
Skype: adrian_stephens
On 31/01/2017 08:32, Clint Chaplin wrote:
I would second such a motion
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Adrian Stephens <
adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org> wrote:
Dear EC,
I have had one email from an 802 member who is Iranian and a green card
holder.
He is currently taking legal advice, but believes he should not travel
to Vancouver because of fear of exclusion from the USA on attempted
re-entry.
I will make a motion to allow a full refund for such individuals at the
EC telecon.
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Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
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Phone: +1 (971) 203-2032
Phone: +447342178905
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