Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Scope change of IEEE 802.24 and process for adding Task Groups for new areas of interest
James,
Not piling on and I do appreciate the changes you have proposed to me. But I also agree with Bob and Pat and will be happy to work with you on this in July in San Diego.
So for now mark me disapprove.
Best regards,
Mike
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Scope change of IEEE 802.24 and process for adding Task Groups for new areas of interest
James
For now, I will also vote disapprove for the reasons cited by Pat and Subir. Conceptually, I am in favor, but this needs more work and July is the time to do it.
Regards
Bob
At 08:07 PM 5/29/2014 +0000, Das, Subir wrote:
>I agree with Pat and vote disapprove. I would also like to collect the
>feedback from the WG and see the EC discuss f2f during July meeting.
>
>Regards,
>_Subir
>
>
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>From: owner-stds-802-sec@IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@IEEE.ORG]
>On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:35 PM
>To: James P. K. Gilb; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Scope change of
>IEEE
>802.24 and process for adding Task Groups for new areas of interest
>
>I'm voting Disapprove for the following reason:
>
>It is wrong to this motion over an email ballot immediately after the
>scope change document has been released.
>
>This is a serious change to the scope of the TAG - equivalent to (or
>even well beyond) a major PAR change for a Working Group. Therefore, it
>should be discussed and approved at a plenary where we can consult with
>Working Group constituencies.
>
>Approximately half of the active work in IEEE 802.1 and 802.3 is
>focused for automotive and industrial. This vote should occur when
>their chairs have the ability to poll them on the topic.
>
>On a more minor note: the motion assumes a name change for 802.24 but
>doesn't approve it. The name change should be part of the motion.
>
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>[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James P. K. Gilb
>Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:44 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Scope change of IEEE
>802.24 and process for adding Task Groups for new areas of interest
>
>Dear EC members
>
>Paul has delegated the conduct of the EC electronic ballot on the
>following motion to me.
>
>This motion is taken under the normal process for approving EC actions
>and according to 7.1.1, item a) "Formation or modification of a
>subgroup, including its procedures, scope, and duties" requires a
>majority vote of those responding.
>
>Moved: IEEE 802 Executive Committee approves the new scope of the IEEE
>802.24 Vertical Applications TAG and the process for approving new work
>withing the TAG as described in document
>24-14-0016-01-0000-TG-creation-process.pdf.
>
>Moved: Gilb, Seconded: D'Ambrosia
>
>Start of ballot: Thursday, 22 May 2014
>Close of ballot: Sunday, 1 June 2014, 11:59 pm AOE.
>
>For your convenience, I have attached the document.
>
>James Gilb
>
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