Re: [802SEC] Response from AudCom on our P&P submission.

["James P. K. Gilb" <gilb@ieee.org>]

Pat

Thanks for catching that.  I am going to update the response as follows:

The text that was removed is duplicative of the responsibilities and 
roles that are explicitly called out in the subclause that follows. As 
this paragraph imperfectly repeats information already in the P&P, 
deleting the text has no impact on the rules.

The clause is marked “This clause may be modified”.

This text is unchanged from our current Policies and Procedures that was 
approved by SASB on 05 December 2012.

James Gilb

On 05/23/2014 12:22 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> But the "other than  the chair" text is in 3.3. That text doesn't appear in the baseline for 3.4. We should add something to the response to say that the comment appears to be on 3.3 rather than on 3.4.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
>
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>
> Pat
>
> The AudCom representatives did not comment on 3.3.  Their comment was on
> 3.4.  They marked 3.3 as acceptable.
>
> I deleted the "This text is unchanged ..." as you have requested.
>
> Mike noticed some editorials as well (Secretary is misspelled in 3.4.5
> and it should be "member's" in 6.4.)
>
> James Gilb
>
> On 05/23/2014 10:22 AM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> > I notice that in the response document, Section 3.4 Responsibilities
> > should be 3.3  Removal of Officers. For the misnumbered subclause,
> > delete "This text is unchanged...." Since we agree it was wrong and
> > we are changing it, there is no reason to point out that both we and
> > they missed the error last time around.
> >
> > Other than that, I agree with the responses.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee
> > List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James P. K.
> > Gilb Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:53 PM To:
> > STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [802SEC] Response from AudCom
> > on our P&P submission.
> >
> > All
> >
> > I have prepared a response to comments on the P&P we submitted for
> > AudCom approval (posted on mentor as:
> > https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/14/ec-14-0031-00-00EC-response-to-audcom-comments-on-p-p.doc)
> >
> >   The listed 3 unacceptable changes and 1 editorial change.
> >
> > The 3 changes that were marked unacceptable are in clauses that may
> > be modified and the text is unchanged from our P&P which was approved
> > by SASB on 05 December, 2012.  My suggested response is that we do
> > not make the changes requested and I have provided justification for
> > why we want the text the way it is.
> >
> > The 1 editorial changes (a mis-numbered subclause) will be fixed
> > when the P&P is re-submitted.
> >
> > Also, we approved a change that did not make it into the version that
> > I submitted to AudCom.  That change was to add "Members Emeritus are
> > appointed by the Sponsor Chair and are confirmed by the Sponsor."  I
> > will add this in the P&P that is re-submitted.
> >
> > I will be in Piscataway for the AudCom meeting, so I can present our
> > position, if necessary.
> >
> > I have attached AudCom's comments and my proposed response to this
> > email.
> >
> > John and Jon: Please add a 5 minutes for me on the conference call
> > to discuss this.
> >
> > James Gilb
> >
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