Re: [802SEC] EC Motion to allow ITU Staff to Attend the White Space Standardization in IEEE 802 Show and Tell Meeting
I should have also included in my disapprove vote:
Also, specifically the "General Audience" adds more heartburn to the
logistics involved as well.
identification and security issues with just having "anyone" attend,
and the cost of providing badges if we try to badge/identify them.
Regards,
Jon
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org> wrote:
> I vote Disapprove,
> The question of the attendees is not an issue as Mike Pointed out
> that the ITU Staff members are able to attend in general.
> My Disapproval is based on the issue of the failure of getting the
> tutorial scheduled in a timely manner in the first place.
> We have heard that the members of the ITU-R are going to be out of
> town and not available, so not sure the value for the effort.
> Respectfully in Disagreement,
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Michael Lynch <MJLynch@mjlallc.com> wrote:
>> Apurva,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, do that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Somewhere I my email archive there is an email (probably from me) that has
>> the ITU text regarding the IEEE membership and reciprocity. Basically they
>> will not charge us nor will we charge them. Watch, once this is over I’ll
>> find it but I have no time this morning as I have to drive to a client
>> meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mody, Apurva (US SSA)
>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 4:15 AM
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] EC Motion to allow ITU Staff to Attend the White Space
>> Standardization in IEEE 802 Show and Tell Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Michael,
>>
>>
>>
>> This pertains to both the first AND the second cases, although the motion
>> does not address the Case 2 specifically.
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember that this issue was discussed at some point but I did not find
>> any specific motion that addressed this: that ITU staff and members be
>> allowed to attend the IEEE 802 meeting at no cost. Thanks for sending the
>> ITU Constitutions and Conventions Document this weekend. As you pointed in
>> the ITU CS and CV, it is specified that IEEE be allowed to participate in
>> ITU on a no fee basis, but converse is not specified in any of our motions
>> or P&P.
>>
>>
>>
>> So this motion is valid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael, as discussed over the phone, I would like to take your suggestion
>> as a friendly amendment to this motion to add that the IEEE 802 Chair, Mr.
>> Paul Nikolich extend special invitation to the ITU Staff and Members to
>> attend this meeting? The amended motions will read as follows.
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Amended Motion
>> Move that ITU Staff Members, Officers and General Audience be allowed to
>> attend the IEEE 802 Spectrum Sharing and White Space Standardization Show
>> and Tell Meeting during the Tuesday, July 16th, AM2 Time Slot of the IEEE
>> 802 Plenary Meeting at no charge. Also move that IEEE 802 Chair, Mr. Paul
>> Nikolich extend a special invitation to the ITU Staff, Members and Officers
>> to attend this meeting.
>>
>> Move: Apurva N. Mody
>> Second: Steve Shellhammer
>>
>> Start: July 1st 2013, Duration: 10 Days
>>
>>
>>
>> Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting Rules' of the IEEE
>> project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual (v11
>> approved 16 Nov 2012) ,
>> this is notice that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner,
>> this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to
>> clearly decide a matter.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> Apurva
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Michael Lynch
>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:21 AM
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: Re: EC Motion to allow ITU Staff to Attend the White Space
>> Standardization in IEEE 802 Show and Tell Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Apurva,
>>
>>
>>
>> A question for clarification.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the status of the IEEE membership under the terms of the ITU
>> Constitution and Conventions (CS & CV) all of our non-executive meetings
>> held there are open (and no charges are allowed) to ITU staff and members.
>> That topic came up several times during the process of setting up this
>> Plenary session at the ITU facilities in Genève..
>>
>>
>>
>> So my question is why are we having a special motion to open up this
>> particular session on White Spaces to the ITU staff and members and at no
>> charge when they are exempt from charges in the first place? As I understand
>> it all those with an interest are allowed to attend our meetings if they
>> happen to be in Genève that week and have the desire to do so. Again, that
>> is quite clear according to the ITU CS & CV.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand could you be wanting the EC to extend a special invitation
>> to the ITU staff and members to attend this particular presentation?
>>
>>
>>
>> If it is this first case I do not think that this motion is needed. If the
>> second then yes, this is something that the EC could consider.
>>
>>
>>
>> As regards the ITU-R WP5A Seminar in Genève on 18th November free attendance
>> at that event should be able to be arranged by registering for the WP5A
>> meeting through the IEEE SA Designated Focal Point (DFP).
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad to discuss.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> +1.972.814.4901
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of apurva mody
>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:43 PM
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [802SEC] EC Motion to allow ITU Staff to Attend the White Space
>> Standardization in IEEE 802 Show and Tell Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear EC Members,
>>
>>
>>
>> IEEE 802 has a unique opportunity to talk about the Spectrum Sharing and
>> White Space Standardization activities that are on-going within the various
>> 802 working groups during our July Plenary at the ITU.
>> ITU is interested in this topic, given the recent announcement as can be
>> seen below.
>>
>>
>>
>> IEEE 802.22 WG has been in discussions with other WGs that are involved in
>> White Space Standardization to organize a Joint Show and Tell Meeting during
>> the Tuesday, July 16th AM2 Time Slot. The location and meeting room has been
>> allocated
>>
>> Location: CICG
>>
>> Room: 4
>>
>>
>> We would like to make a motion that EC allows opening up this Show and Tell
>> Meeting to the ITU Staff Members and General Audience during the Tuesday AM2
>> Time Slot.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Motion
>> Move that ITU Staff Members, Officers and General Audience be allowed to
>> attend the IEEE 802 Spectrum Sharing and White Space Standardization Show
>> and Tell Meeting during the Tuesday, July 16th, AM2 Time Slot of the IEEE
>> 802 Plenary Meeting at no charge.
>>
>> Move: Apurva N. Mody
>> Second: Steve Shellhammer
>>
>> Early close: As required in subclause 4.1.2 'Voting Rules' of the IEEE
>> project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual (v11
>> approved 16 Nov 2012) ,
>> this is notice that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner,
>> this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to
>> clearly decide a matter.
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> Reference -
>> _____________________________________________
>>
>> From: Buonomo, Sergio [mailto:sergio.buonomo@itu.int]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 08:19 AM Eastern Standard Time
>> To: rwp5a, ITU (MLIST) <rwp5a@ties.itu.int<mailto:rwp5a@ties.itu.int>>
>> Subject: WP 5A Seminar on CRS and white spaces
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> ITU-R Working Party 5A will hold a “Seminar on Cognitive Radio Systems and
>> the use of White Spaces“ in Geneva, on 18 November 2013. Additional
>> information can be found on: http://www.itu.int/oth/R0A06000059/en.
>>
>> Any suggestion on topics and potential speakers should be sent to the WP 5A
>> Chairman José Costa
>> (jose.costa@ericsson.com<mailto:jose.costa@ericsson.com>) or to myself,
>> preferably before 31 July 2013.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Sergio
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Sergio BUONOMO E-mail:
>> sergio.buonomo@itu.int<mailto:sergio.buonomo@itu.int>
>> Counsellor, Study Group 5 Tel.: +41 22 730 62 29
>> International Telecommunication Union (ITU) Fax : +41 22 730 58 06
>> Radiocommunication Bureau (BR), Study Group Department (SGD)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________
>>
>> Apurva N. Mody, Ph. D.
>>
>> Chair, IEEE 802.22 Standard Working Group (www.ieee802.org/22)
>>
>> Cell: 404-819-0314
>>
>> E-mail: apurva.mody@ieee.org
>>
>>
>>
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