Re: [802SEC] IEEE-SA Policy and Procedures (P&P) Changes- January 2012 - Important - Please read
Geoff -
I think you have perfectly made my point - i.e., the existing wording is a
no-op. However, I am not at all sure that the steps taken would be so few,
so simple, or over such a short time-scale. I admire your optimism.
HNY to you also!
Regards,
Tony
On 3 January 2012 14:17, Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org> wrote:
> Tony-
> Good point.
> Having sat around board and board sub-committee actions in Piscataway for
> too many years, I believe it would proceed something like this:
>
> 1. Some WG Chair on RevCom would propose to remove someone or some
> number of people for habitual non-response.
> 2. There would be a painful extended discussion at RevCom on lack of
> crisp criteria for doing so.
> 3. The discussion would extend to the fact that there is no procedure
> for removal, whether such removal would be immediate or whether
> there would be a personalized "warning" first and how long such a
> removal would last. That is, does removal disqualify someone from
> immediately re-applying to be a member of the balloting pool?
> 4. There would be a motion to cast whomever out which would be a
> split decision but perhaps pass.
> 5. There would be a unanimous motion to refer the issue to ProCom for
> more procedures.
> 6. The motion in #4 would be removed from the consent agenda at the SASB
> 7. The SASB would go into executive session because personalities are
> involved
> 8. The SASB motion in executive session would go in the direction of
> no action for lack of precedent and procedural foundation.
> 9. A ProCom ad-hoc would be set up and it would take a year (at
> least) for the issues in #3 to be resolved.
> 10. Criteria and procedures would cut in with a new set of P&P a year
> or two after the first time someone actually tried to invoke the
> clause.
>
> Happy New Year !!
>
> Geoff
>
>
> On 31//12 5:43 AM, Tony Jeffree wrote:
>
>> Paul -
>>
>> I am pleased to see this addition in 5.4.1:
>>
>> "Balloting group members have an obligation to respond during the
>> balloting
>> period; failure to return a ballot may disqualify the balloter from
>> participation in future balloting groups."
>>
>> This has been a long time coming; there have been many occasions when I
>> would have found that rule useful in the past. However, as far as I can
>> tell, this isn't backed up by any statement of how one would go about
>> invoking the rule, which basically seems to render it a no-op. Do you have
>> any information on what was intended here?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 January 2012 13:09, Paul Nikolich<paul.nikolich@att.net**> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dear EC members,
>>>
>>> Attached below is a note from Dave Ringle of SA staff pointing to the
>>> most
>>> recent revisions of the SA Bylaws, Operations Manual and changes for your
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> --Paul
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: d.ringle@ieee.org
>>> To: stds-board-comm@IEEE.ORG ; standards-staff@IEEE.ORG ;
>>> std-liaison-reps@IEEE.ORG ; stds-wg-chairs@IEEE.ORG
>>> Cc: sa-bog@IEEE.ORG
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:57 AM
>>> Subject: IEEE-SA Policy and Procedures (P&P) Changes- January 2012 -
>>> Important - Please read
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws is available
>>> at:
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/**develop/policies/bylaws/index.**html<http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/index.html>(HTML
>>> version)
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/**develop/policies/bylaws/sb_**bylaws.pdf<http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf>(PDF
>>> version)
>>>
>>> The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual is
>>> available at:
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/**develop/policies/opman/index.**html<http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/index.html>(HTML version)
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/**develop/policies/opman/sb_om.**pdf<http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sb_om.pdf>(PDF version)
>>>
>>> The text of the changes made to these documents (approved by SASB/BOG in
>>> 2011) can be found at:
>>> http://standards.ieee.org/**develop/policies/policy_rev.**pdf<http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/policy_rev.pdf>
>>>
>>> Please read through these changes so that you are familiar with the
>>> current P&P. [Note: Change 5 will be implemented on 1 March 2012.]
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any questions, please contact me. [Please do not reply to all
>>> unless you want all to view your comments. Thank you.]
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> David L. Ringle
>>> Director, Governance& Technical Committee Programs
>>>
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