Re: [802SEC] ++++ EC Ballot on IEEE Service Level Agreement ++++ Closes Tuesday Jan 11

["Grow, Bob" <bob.grow@INTEL.COM>]

I agree with Tony's comments, plus I find a fair amount of sloppy text in the document.  A partial attempt to address plus additional comments is in the attached.

--Bob

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From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] ++++ EC Ballot on IEEE Service Level Agreement ++++ Closes Tuesday Jan 11

Dear Bruce -

I feel the wording of the motion is unfortunate, as it poses a question
rather than giving a clear statement of an action that the EC is to take.
Hence, it isn't clear to me what outcome I would be voting for if I vote
"Approve" - would I be approving asking the question (in which case, there
would presumably be a second motion to approve submission of the document),
or would I be approving submission as is? Who are we going to submit the SLA
to (the motion doesn't state this)? Also, the use of "should" makes the
question itself ambiguous - would we be approving something that is
virtuous, or something that we actually plan to do? There are plenty of
things that we all "should" do, but we don't do all of them.

Consequently, without regard to the content of the document, I must vote
"Disapprove" until such a time as the motion is re-worded in a form that
defines a clear outcome, for example:

"EC approves submission of the SLA document to the IEEE-SA as a formal
agreement regarding computer services provided by IEEE-SA to IEEE 802."

Having said that, I am generally in support of establishing an SLA, but
there are a number of problems with the document as it stands, as indicated
in the attached markup.

Regards,
Tony


On 22 December 2010 15:54, Bruce Kraemer <bkraemer@marvell.com> wrote:

> Dear EC,
>
> Over the past several months there have been several IEEE computer system
> outages that have disrupted email reflectors, myBallot, myProject and the
> Mentor document server.
>
> These services have become critical to the operation of IEEE 802 and during
> Dallas plenary we broadly agreed that a service improvement is needed.
>
> Toward the goal of improving service, Paul has authorized me to conduct a
> 20 day EC ballot on the attached SLA. After the comments have been collected
> and integrated into the SLA, Paul will submit it to Judy Gorman for
> signature as an agreement between 802 and IEEE.
>
> EC Ballot Question: "Should the EC submit the SLA document as a formal
> agreement regarding computer services provided by IEEE-SA to IEEE 802?"
>
>
> Please use the comment attached form for suggestions.
>
> I reserve the option to close the ballot early should the results of the
> ballot be clear prior to the scheduled close date of Tuesday Jan 11, 2011.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bruce Kraemer
>
>
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