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Re: [802SEC] +++EC 5 Day Review+++802.18 Comments on FCC Smart Grid Notice



Hi Mike,

I was wondering if there was an updated draft to review based on the 
comments from Geoff.

Best regards,
  David


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wrote on 28/09/2009 00:20:46:

> Mike-
> 
> For your consideration
> (I would probably vote disapprove this pass if I had a vote)
> 
> Page 1 Change:
> 4. We note that many of the questions raised in this NOI are a repeat of 

> questions already posed within the NIST Smart Grid Interoperabilty 
> Standards  Project. Answers to these
> 
> 5.  questions derived from the NIST...
> 
> To:
> 4. We note that many of the questions raised in this NOI are a repeat of 

> questions already posed within the NIST Smart Grid Interoperabilty 
> Standards  Project.
> 
> 5.  Answers to these questions derived from the NIST ...
> 
> 
> Regarding your response to #8 where you say:
> 
>     "On the other hand, applications such as automatic meter reading and
>     data beyond SCADA, which are more latency-tolerant, could utilize
>     communications technologies such as broadband wireless, satellite,
>     unlicensed wireless mesh, and licensed wireless."
> 
> seems to (inappropriately) exclude wired 802 technologies. Much of the 
> grid metering will be in easy reach of the wired network infrastructure. 

> This particular aspect of network usage is about connectivity, not 
> bandwidth. The bandwidth requirements are trivial. Connection to the 
> wired network infrastructure belonging to the customer or to service 
> provide premises gateway devices should be included within the scope of 
> consideration.
> 
> Slightly further along in #8
> Change:
> "Power system equipment located in remote regions are not usually able 
> to take advantage of public wireless networks..."
> To either:
> "Power system equipments located in remote regions are not usually able 
> to take advantage of public wireless networks..."
> -OR-
> "Power system equipment located in remote regions is not usually able to 

> take advantage of public wireless networks..."
> 
> ...And at the end of that same sentence where it says:
> "...require the installation of private wireless or wired networks."
> Change to:
> "...require the installation of private wireless or wired networks with 
> independent power capability."
> 
> Add to #12
> "To these ends, Smart Grid commuications systems should be developed in 
> a manner such that the higher levels of the software stack are 
> independent of considerations of the implementation of Layers 1 and 2 to 

> the greatest extent possible."
> 
> Number 16
> "No comment"
> should be replaced with a mention of both ensuring and keeping track of 
> the power systems which energize all communications elements of Smart 
> Grid. For Smart Grid to be fully functional in emergency situations 
> there may very well be rerouting of communications required that goes 
> beyond the normal reconfiguration capability of the nominal network. 
> Access to a database that details the power source capabilities of each 
> communication system element may well be a critical item in determining 
> priorities when scheduling the repair of system elements in a disaster 
> situation.
> 
> Number 17:
> I do not consider the statement to be true.
> The statement would be more accurate if it restricted itself to 
> broadband facilities. The desire to implement a "Smart Grid" should not 
> cause regulators or implementers to lose sight of the fact that much of 
> the necessary communications capability can be met by wired networking 
> at speeds that can be handled by service either ordinary telephone lines 

> (via autodialer) or by (multi-drop, if necessary) dedicated telco 
> circuits on the in-place infrastructure.
> 
> Number 18:
> Should be answered in light my comment above.
> 
> Number 19:
> See comment above. Should no be limited to broadband for a reply.
> 
> Number 42:
> Change:
> "...allowing large numbers of users to efficiently use the radio 
channels."
> To:
> "...allowing large numbers of users to efficiently share use of the 
> radio channels."
> 
> Number 54:    Spellcheck
> 
> That's all
> 
> Geoff
> 
> On 9/27/09 10:46 AM, MJLynch@mjlallc.com wrote:
> > Dear EC,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 September the FCC issued a notice calling for responses to 
> their questions regarding the implementation of Smart Grid 
> technology. This is related to the ongoing FCC work on the 
> nationwide broadband proposal.. The response time was somewhat 
> better than the previous item that 802 responded to but the 
> timeframe was too short to allow a thorough response.
> >
> >
> >
> > During last week's wireless interim 802.18, in conjunction with 
> other WGs, developed a response. That document (18-09-0105-05) is 
> available at:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/documents
> >
> >
> >
> > The FCC due date for the comments is 2 October.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also available as 18-09-0104-00 is the FCC notice.
> >
> >
> >
> > This document is being sent to you for the five day review process.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am proposing that the EC review period begins now and closes on 
> 1 October and the 802.18 response will be filed on 2 October.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > +1.972.814.4901 Mobile
> >
> >
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