Re: [802SEC] tentative results +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 12FEB2007)+++ Motion to approve the statement regarding the Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
Approve
-Vivek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-
> SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:16 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] tentative results +++EC Email ballot (closes no
later
> than 12FEB2007)+++ Motion to approve the statement regarding the
Standards
> Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Dear EC members,
>
> The tentative results for the above email ballot are shown below.
Please
> confirm I have recorded your vote correctly. To those who have not
cast a
> ballot please do so--the ballot closes end of day 12FEB2007 AOE.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
> Vote categories: APP DIS ABS DNV
> --------------------------------------------------
> VC Mat Sherman. APP
> VC Pat Thaler DNV
> ES Buzz Rigsbee. DIS w/comments
> RS Bob O'Hara. APP
> TR John Hawkins DNV
> 01 Tony Jeffree. APP
> 03 Bob Grow. APP
> 11 Stuart Kerry. APP
> 15 Bob Heile. APP
> 16 Roger Marks. DIS (agrees with Buzz)
> 17 Mike Takefman DNV
> 18 Mike Lynch DNV
> 19 Steve Shellhammer. APP
> 20 Arnie Greenspan. APP
> 21 Vivek Gupta DNV
> 22 Carl Stevenson APP w/ comment
> ME Geoff Thompson non-voting
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 16 TOTALS result 09 02 00 05
>
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>
> > Buzz's comments:
> > Colleagues, I'm sorry but this proposal does not sound workable or
fair
> > to me. Essentially we're saying, "Go ahead and form your committee;
> > just don't do anything that might interfere with something we might
want
> > to do in the future."
> >
> > How can they possibly know what to avoid ??? I think if we want to
> > protect our turf effectively, we have to volunteer to host this
> > committee effort and work with them to ensure that all projects are
> > coordinated properly. We can't expect to have first drink if we're
not
> > willing to carry most of the water.
> >
> > So I don't think I could support issuing this statement. It just
> > doesn't seem to be a reasonable position to take.
> >
> > Thanx, Buzz
> >
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> --------------
> > Carl's comment:
> > Approve, with the following comment, perhaps the 2nd paragraph
should
> end
> > "... To the IEEE 1900 steering committee, the IEEE Standards Board,
and
> the
> > IEEE-SA Board of Governors."
> >
> > (I think the BoG should be covered.)
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
> > To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:52 AM
> > Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
12FEB2007)+++
> > Motion to approve the statement regarding the Standards Coordinating
> > Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> >
> >
> >> Dear EC members,
> >>
> >> Motion to approve the following text be sent in a letter from Paul
> >> Nikolich
> >> to the IEEE Computer Society.
> >> Moved by Steve Shellhammer, seconded by Carl Stevenson.
> >>
> >> The decision will be made via EC email ballot and shall close no
later
> >> than
> >> 12FEB2007 or 24 hours after all EC members cast a vote.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --Paul
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> The IEEE 802 executive committee recommends that the Computer
Society
> >> not become a sponsor of the proposed standards coordinating
committee
> on
> >> dynamic spectrum access networks.
> >>
> >> In addition the IEEE 802 executive committee recommends the
Computer
> >> Society forward the following comments to the IEEE 1900 steering
> >> committee and the IEEE Standards Board, on behalf of IEEE 802.
> >>
> >>
> >> IEEE 802 appreciates that some future wireless standards will
> >> incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies. In fact, IEEE 802
has
> >> a working group (802.22) developing a standard for unlicensed
broadband
> >> access operation on geographically unused channels in the
television
> >> bands, which incorporates dynamic spectrum access technologies.
IEEE
> >> 802's only concern regarding the establishment of a standards
> >> coordination committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access networks
> >> (DySPAN) is any potential conflict between the SCC and activities,
both
> >> present and future, within IEEE 802.
> >>
> >> The IEEE 802 organization has a long history of development of
wireless
> >> networking standards. There are currently six wireless working
groups
> >> and two wireless technical advisory committees (TAGs) within IEEE
802.
> >> If a SCC on DySPAN were to be established the IEEE 802 leadership
needs
> >> to be assured that the existence of such a SCC would not preclude
IEEE
> >> 802 from initiating and running new wireless projects within IEEE
802
> >> which may incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies.
> >>
> >> IEEE 802 has always been the place within the IEEE for
standardizing
> >> wired and wireless networking standards, and we believe that
> fundamental
> >> networking standards are best handled within IEEE 802. We are sure
> >> there are many additional standards developments that can be
covered in
> >> the DySPAN SCC which will not conflict with the fundamental
wireless
> >> networking standards being developed within IEEE 802.
> >>
> >> In summary, IEEE 802 is fine with the establishment of the SCC on
> DySPAN
> >> as long as the scope of work does not conflict with the work done
in
> >> IEEE 802.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:17 PM
> >> To: Shellhammer, Steve; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee
on
> >> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> >>
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> I just re-read the inquiry from the CS-SAB Chair. It said: "If
> LMSC/802
> >>
> >> wishes to formalize their involvement, then IEEE-CS should be the
3rd
> >> Society join with this SCC with ComSoc & EMC."
> >>
> >> Based on the responses I've seen from the EC on the draft response
> >> letter, I
> >> think it is safe to assume LMSC is not interested in becoming
formally
> >> involved with the SCC. Furthermore LMSC is not a 'society', the
> >> Computer
> >> Society is, and I would not recommend CS become involved with the
SCC.
> >>
> >> Regardless, I would prefer to have an EC decision via motion
regarding
> >> this
> >> matter, it would include approving your draft text and making a
> >> recommendation against formally engaging with the proposed SCC.
Please
> >> prepare text for a motion, obtain a second and I'll run an EC email
> >> ballot.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> --Paul
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
> >> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:22 PM
> >> Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on
> >> Dynamic
> >> Spectrum Access Networks
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to send you a reminder about this. I have
> >> incorporated the suggested edits. When we first talked about this
you
> >> made an off-the-cuff comment about running an electronic ballot
about
> >> this. I don't know if that is necessary, but if you feel it is I
> >> suggest you start it right away, since the Computer Society has
asked
> >> for a response by February 13.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> >> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:20 PM
> >> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic
> >> Spectrum Access Networks
> >>
> >> Carl,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for your comments, which I have incorporated in to
> >> revision 1 (attached).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone else have any additional comment?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If not, then Paul can send this to the Computer Society.
Paul,
> >> you may want to format it into a letter from you to the appropriate
> >> person in the Computer Society.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> >> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:34 AM
> >> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic
> >> Spectrum Access Networks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have attached a couple of suggested changes to Steve's document
with
> >> my
> >>
> >> initials appended to the filename.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My main concern is that we not get into repeating situations
similar to
> >> the
> >>
> >> one we had with a project that overlaps the scope of 802.3.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
> >> On
> >>
> >> Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> >>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:09 PM
> >>
> >> To: STDS-802-SEC@IEEE.ORG
> >>
> >> Subject: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic
Spectrum
> >>
> >> Access Networks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> EC Members,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The IEEE 1900 standards group has proposed the formation
of
> >> a
> >>
> >> Standards Coordinating Committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access
> >> networks
> >>
> >> (DySPAN). This is a new field of wireless networks in which an
> >> unlicensed
> >>
> >> system dynamically utilized spectrum unused by licensed wireless
> >> systems.
> >>
> >> The first example of this technology will be the unlicensed used of
> >> unused
> >>
> >> TV bands. This is what is being standardized within IEEE 802.22.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul received information on this proposal (see
attached)
> >> from
> >>
> >> John Walz and Kathy Land of the Computer Society. We have been
asked
> to
> >>
> >> submit any comments we have to the computer society by February 13.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Paul and Carl and I exchanged a few email and Carl and I
> >> spoke
> >>
> >> about this. Paul wanted someone to craft some text for our
comments on
> >> this
> >>
> >> proposed SCC. So I have drafted some initial comments, which are
> >> attached.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please review these comments and send any edits or any
other
> >>
> >> comments you have to the EC reflector. I will attempt to capture
the
> >>
> >> consensus of the feedback and will revise the comments accordingly.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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