[802SEC] tentative results +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 12FEB2007)+++ Motion to approve the statement regarding the Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
Dear EC members,
This is a resend of the tentative results which includes the comments
associated with Buzz' disaprrove and Carl's approve (inserted below after
the tentative results.)
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:45 PM
Subject: [802SEC] tentative results +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
12FEB2007)+++ Motion to approve the statement regarding the Standards
Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
Dear EC,
The tentative results for the above email ballot are shown below. Please
confirm I have recorded your vote correctly. To those who have not cast a
ballot please do so--the ballot closes end of day 12FEB2007 AOE.
Regards,
--Paul
Vote categories: APP DIS ABS DNV
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VC Mat Sherman. APP
VC Pat Thaler DNV
ES Buzz Rigsbee. DIS w/comments
RS Bob O'Hara. APP
TR John Hawkins DNV
01 Tony Jeffree. APP
03 Bob Grow. APP
11 Stuart Kerry DNV
15 Bob Heile. APP
16 Roger Marks DNV
17 Mike Takefman DNV
18 Mike Lynch DNV
19 Steve Shellhammer. APP
20 Arnie Greenspan. DNV
21 Vivek Gupta DNV
22 Carl Stevenson APP w/ comment
ME Geoff Thompson non-voting
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16 TOTALS result 06 01 00 09
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Buzz's comments:
Colleagues, I'm sorry but this proposal does not sound workable or fair
to me. Essentially we're saying, "Go ahead and form your committee;
just don't do anything that might interfere with something we might want
to do in the future."
How can they possibly know what to avoid ??? I think if we want to
protect our turf effectively, we have to volunteer to host this
committee effort and work with them to ensure that all projects are
coordinated properly. We can't expect to have first drink if we're not
willing to carry most of the water.
So I don't think I could support issuing this statement. It just
doesn't seem to be a reasonable position to take.
Thanx, Buzz
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Carl's comment:
Approve, with the following comment, perhaps the 2nd paragraph should end
"... To the IEEE 1900 steering committee, the IEEE Standards Board, and the
IEEE-SA Board of Governors."
(I think the BoG should be covered.)
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:52 AM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 12FEB2007)+++
Motion to approve the statement regarding the Standards Coordinating
Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
> Dear EC members,
>
> Motion to approve the following text be sent in a letter from Paul
> Nikolich
> to the IEEE Computer Society.
> Moved by Steve Shellhammer, seconded by Carl Stevenson.
>
> The decision will be made via EC email ballot and shall close no later
> than
> 12FEB2007 or 24 hours after all EC members cast a vote.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
>
> ---------------------
>
> The IEEE 802 executive committee recommends that the Computer Society
> not become a sponsor of the proposed standards coordinating committee on
> dynamic spectrum access networks.
>
> In addition the IEEE 802 executive committee recommends the Computer
> Society forward the following comments to the IEEE 1900 steering
> committee and the IEEE Standards Board, on behalf of IEEE 802.
>
>
> IEEE 802 appreciates that some future wireless standards will
> incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies. In fact, IEEE 802 has
> a working group (802.22) developing a standard for unlicensed broadband
> access operation on geographically unused channels in the television
> bands, which incorporates dynamic spectrum access technologies. IEEE
> 802's only concern regarding the establishment of a standards
> coordination committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access networks
> (DySPAN) is any potential conflict between the SCC and activities, both
> present and future, within IEEE 802.
>
> The IEEE 802 organization has a long history of development of wireless
> networking standards. There are currently six wireless working groups
> and two wireless technical advisory committees (TAGs) within IEEE 802.
> If a SCC on DySPAN were to be established the IEEE 802 leadership needs
> to be assured that the existence of such a SCC would not preclude IEEE
> 802 from initiating and running new wireless projects within IEEE 802
> which may incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies.
>
> IEEE 802 has always been the place within the IEEE for standardizing
> wired and wireless networking standards, and we believe that fundamental
> networking standards are best handled within IEEE 802. We are sure
> there are many additional standards developments that can be covered in
> the DySPAN SCC which will not conflict with the fundamental wireless
> networking standards being developed within IEEE 802.
>
> In summary, IEEE 802 is fine with the establishment of the SCC on DySPAN
> as long as the scope of work does not conflict with the work done in
> IEEE 802.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:17 PM
> To: Shellhammer, Steve; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on
> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Steve,
>
> I just re-read the inquiry from the CS-SAB Chair. It said: "If LMSC/802
>
> wishes to formalize their involvement, then IEEE-CS should be the 3rd
> Society join with this SCC with ComSoc & EMC."
>
> Based on the responses I've seen from the EC on the draft response
> letter, I
> think it is safe to assume LMSC is not interested in becoming formally
> involved with the SCC. Furthermore LMSC is not a 'society', the
> Computer
> Society is, and I would not recommend CS become involved with the SCC.
>
> Regardless, I would prefer to have an EC decision via motion regarding
> this
> matter, it would include approving your draft text and making a
> recommendation against formally engaging with the proposed SCC. Please
> prepare text for a motion, obtain a second and I'll run an EC email
> ballot.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:22 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on
> Dynamic
> Spectrum Access Networks
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I just wanted to send you a reminder about this. I have
> incorporated the suggested edits. When we first talked about this you
> made an off-the-cuff comment about running an electronic ballot about
> this. I don't know if that is necessary, but if you feel it is I
> suggest you start it right away, since the Computer Society has asked
> for a response by February 13.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:20 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic
> Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Carl,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your comments, which I have incorporated in to
> revision 1 (attached).
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have any additional comment?
>
>
>
> If not, then Paul can send this to the Computer Society. Paul,
> you may want to format it into a letter from you to the appropriate
> person in the Computer Society.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:34 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic
> Spectrum Access Networks
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I have attached a couple of suggested changes to Steve's document with
> my
>
> initials appended to the filename.
>
>
>
> My main concern is that we not get into repeating situations similar to
> the
>
> one we had with a project that overlaps the scope of 802.3.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
> On
>
> Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:09 PM
>
> To: STDS-802-SEC@IEEE.ORG
>
> Subject: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum
>
> Access Networks
>
>
>
> EC Members,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The IEEE 1900 standards group has proposed the formation of
> a
>
> Standards Coordinating Committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access
> networks
>
> (DySPAN). This is a new field of wireless networks in which an
> unlicensed
>
> system dynamically utilized spectrum unused by licensed wireless
> systems.
>
> The first example of this technology will be the unlicensed used of
> unused
>
> TV bands. This is what is being standardized within IEEE 802.22.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul received information on this proposal (see attached)
> from
>
> John Walz and Kathy Land of the Computer Society. We have been asked to
>
> submit any comments we have to the computer society by February 13.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul and Carl and I exchanged a few email and Carl and I
> spoke
>
> about this. Paul wanted someone to craft some text for our comments on
> this
>
> proposed SCC. So I have drafted some initial comments, which are
> attached.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please review these comments and send any edits or any other
>
> comments you have to the EC reflector. I will attempt to capture the
>
> consensus of the feedback and will revise the comments accordingly.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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