Re: [802SEC] "Get IEEE 802" comments
And Costco will do it for even less.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Alfvin [mailto:alfvin@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:56 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] "Get IEEE 802" comments
If that is the source of the charge, I can offer up links to well establsihed credit card processing services that charge a transaction fee of $0.30 plus 2.9% of the charge. This would reduce the fee from $25 to $0.45 per transaction.
On 3/15/06, Harry Worstell <hworstell@research.att.com> wrote:
>
> Carl,
>
> The $25 cost is the processing fee for the credit
> card for the $5 down load.
>
> Harry
>
>
> Harry R. Worstell
> Sr. Technical Specialist
> Communications Technology Research
> AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
> Vice Chair, IEEE 802.11 Working Group
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@WK3C.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:58 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] "Get IEEE 802" comments
>
> I don't think it's acceptable to increase our participants' cost for
> supporting the program beyond where it is now.
>
> As I tried to discuss, but there wasn't time during the Friday EC
> meeting in Denver, I just can't understand how it "costs" $25 to
> fulfill a .pdf download. (I may have misunderstood, but my
> understanding was that was the reason stated as to why a nominal (say
> $5) charge per download from Get 802 "wasn't a viable option" to
> further support the program without increasing our participants' per
> meeting session costs.
>
> As I said, it seems to me that the incremental cost of a .pdf download
> is negligible and I don't understand why simply changing the price (to
> something like $5) 6 months after 802 standards are published isn't
> viable.
>
> I'd like to hear a good explanation of what I'm missing so that I can
> understand it and we could see if we could figure out a way to fix
> this.
>
> Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:59 AM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: [802SEC] "Get IEEE 802" comments
> >
> > Karen,
> >
> > Every time we discuss the Get IEEE 802 budget, it gets me to
> > thinking about the program itself, and how it might be improved, or
> > even maintained.
> >
> > So, I have the following comments:
> >
> > *The "Get IEEE 802 Program Agreement" says "Documents subject to the
> > wait period will be listed on the website with a link to a site
> > where the documents may be purchased." However, I don't see such
> > links at the site:
> > http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802
> > In fact, I don't ever recall seeing such links, even though I've
> > brought up this issue a few times over the years. There is a pointer
> > to the IEEE Store, but that's not the same thing; the Store is an
> > easy
>
> > place to get lost, and it does not include a list of available 802
> > documents.
> >
> > *Are sales of drafts included in the Get IEEE 802 budget? I think
> > IEEE
>
> > could do a better job of promoting them for sale.
> > It's nice that the web page has two links to the draft sale page.
> > Unfortunately, both of those links are dead, because they point to
> > ILI. ILI has not been offering 802 drafts since November 1.
> >
> > *As usual, we discussed the statistical profiles of the downloaders
> > when we met last week. However, I suspect that this data may be out
> > of
>
> > date. I say this because, when I went to download standards today, I
> > did not receive the survey form. [Neither did I receive a "Terms and
> > Conditions" page to accept.] I found the same results on two
> > different
>
> > browsers.
> >
> > Before we next meet to talk about the program budget, can you see if
> > IEEE can review the web site?
> >
> > Roger
> >
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