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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...



Geoff -

That's because I never went there.

Regards,
Tony

At 19:47 26/07/2005, Geoff Thompson wrote:
>Tony-
>
>At 12:49 AM 7/26/2005 , Tony Jeffree wrote:
>>I would agree with Pat - as downtown venues go, it was certainly not as 
>>bad as some that we have been to, and in comparison to some of our 
>>all-time worst venues (DFW, Danvers to name a couple)
>
>You forgot to mention Baltimore.
>
>>it was excellent. Maybe not in the same league as our very best venues 
>>(Vancouver and Montreal spring to mind there), but definitely acceptable.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Tony
>
>
>Geoff
>
>
>>At 00:59 26/07/2005, Pat Thaler wrote:
>>>Buzz,
>>>
>>>I thought Atlanta was a fine venue. I appreciate downtown venues like 
>>>Atlanta for the easy access to restaurants for dinners and quick 
>>>lunches. I didn't poll anyone but I didn't hear any complaints on the 
>>>area and I felt safe enough in the area. I've been there in the past for 
>>>InterOps and I've never had a problem even walking and using the subway 
>>>(which seems to have a fair amount of security staff) after dark. I 
>>>doubt there is a significant crime difference between Atlanta and San 
>>>Francisco - and at least it is less grim than downtown Albuquerque at night.
>>>
>>>Also, Atlanta helps to balance out our locations which are a bit light 
>>>on East Coast venues.
>>>
>>>I found Airport transportation pretty easy since it is a straight shot 
>>>on the subway.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Pat
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM]
>>>Sent: Monday, 25 July, 2005 4:10 PM
>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta 
>>>Proposal+++ends 29 J...
>>>
>>>Thanx Jerry,    I appreciate your input.  Could you please tell me how 
>>>many members were voting on that meeting site poll on Atlanta ???
>>>
>>>Where I recognize it may not be anyone's favorite return site, I think 
>>>Atlanta still represents an exceptional value site that may then allow 
>>>us to return to other favorite venues for an average cost that is still 
>>>acceptable overall.  A lot of our guys ARE on fairly tight travel 
>>>budgets these days so we need some value locations.  Typically those 
>>>offer lower prices for some reason.  I saw no safety issue in Atlanta, 
>>>any more than in any large Metropolitan Area.  They just went to the 
>>>bother of putting out an advisory to visitors message because they are 
>>>trying to indicate their sincere effort to eradicate a prior 
>>>problem.  We had no reports of any incidents, and mostly got compliments 
>>>for the courteousness of the downtown escort service.
>>>
>>>Safety would not be my first concern for Atlanta, but transportation to 
>>>and from the airport might be my number one.  I thought the downtown 
>>>location had more than enough good restaurant and night life options 
>>>nearby to keep most folks happy all week.
>>>
>>>Thanx,  Buzz
>>>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>Boeing - SSG
>>>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>Cell: (425) 417-1022
>>>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>
>>>         -----Original Message-----
>>>         From: Jerry1upton@aol.com [mailto:Jerry1upton@aol.com]
>>>         Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:21 PM
>>>         To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>         Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The 
>>> Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...
>>>
>>>
>>>         Buzz,
>>>         I recognize there are few locations that we can fit into for a 
>>> Plenary. I also recognize that we are offered very good financial terms.
>>>
>>>         However, I usually check with my members after a Plenary and 
>>> ask whether they would want to return to the location. Though we did 
>>> vote a motion on Atlanta after the last Plenary, virtually no member 
>>> who attended Atlanta would rank this location as a desired return 
>>> location. One main point is that the downtown area is not viewed as 
>>> safe. I would not personally book another meeting in downtown Atlanta 
>>> for other organizations that I manage or vote venues. I did manage a 
>>> meeting last year in the Westin in downtown Atlanta for another 
>>> organization and the view of the attendees was not to return.
>>>
>>>         Therefore, I vote No.
>>>         Regards,
>>>         Jerry Upton
>>>
>>>         In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:07:09 PM Central Standard Time, 
>>> everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Paul,  We are actually balloting a same deal repeat for 
>>> Nov. 2011 as well.
>>>
>>>                 Please vote for each independently as indicated on the 
>>> motion.
>>>
>>>                 The first file is the terms of the deal; the second is 
>>> the motion.
>>>
>>>                 Thanx for your cooperation.
>>>
>>>                 Thanx,  Buzz
>>>                 Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>                 Boeing - SSG
>>>                 PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>                 Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>                 (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>                 Cell: (425) 417-1022
>>>                 everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 -----Original Message-----
>>>                 From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
>>>                 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:46 AM
>>>                 To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>                 Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The 
>>> Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Dear EC Members,
>>>
>>>                 This is a email ballot to make a determination on the 
>>> below motion.
>>>
>>>                 Motion: "To approve the attached motion (finalize 
>>> contract arrangements with
>>>                 Hyatt Regency Atlanta) for Nov 2009).
>>>
>>>                 Moved: Rigsbee
>>>                 Second: Hawkins
>>>
>>>                 The ballot opens noon PT Saturday 23 July 2005 and 
>>> closes Friday 29 July
>>>                 2005.
>>>
>>>                 Regards,
>>>
>>>                 --Paul Nikolich
>>>
>>>
>>>                 ----- Original Message -----
>>>                 From: "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>
>>>                 To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>                 Cc: <jhawkins@nortel.com>; <dawns@facetoface-events.com>
>>>                 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:37 PM
>>>                 Subject: The Atlanta Proposal for EC Ballot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Paul,  Here's is the material from the Atlanta Proposal 
>>> to be balloted and
>>>                 closed by 30 July 2005.  The first file is the 
>>> information on the deal(s).
>>>                 The second is the motions to approve for Nov. 2009 and 
>>> for Nov. 2011.
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Thanx,  Buzz
>>>                 Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>>>                 Boeing - SSG
>>>                 PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>>>                 Seattle, WA  98124-2207
>>>                 (425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
>>>                 Cell: (425) 417-1022
>>>                 everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>>>
>>>
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>>Regards,
>>Tony
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>Regards,
>Tony

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