Re: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and things.
Bob-
So we can (at least) fix the "problem" of the rules comment resolution
meeting by making it a standing meeting (until it runs out of work :^)
Mat, can you fix this?
Geoff
At 03:42 PM 7/26/2005 , Bob O'Hara (boohara) wrote:
>One problem I have with EC teleconferences is that they are not "open".
>There are usually a very limited number of phone ports and the meeting
>announcement often does not meet our requirement for 30-day advance
>notice. In addition, I don't think I have ever seen anyone provide
>minutes of one of these teleconferences.
>
>So, without an agreement to handle these as the actual meetings of the
>EC that they are, I would argue strongly against this.
>
>Come to think of it, there are a number of other "meetings" that do not
>meet these requirements, as well. At least one of them is the P&P
>comment resolution meeting.
>
>
> -Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:28 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and
>things.
>
>Pat,
>
> I think we can get lots of discussion done in EC teleconferences
>and make the decisions at the plenary meetings. Clearly people have to
>attend. I do not believe there have been any meetings on topics other
>than the P&P changes (e.g. meeting locations). I would say we should
>leave it up to the person leading the effort. If they want to have it
>spill over after the meeting that is fine. If they want to prepare
>before the meeting that is fine also, maybe even better.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:43 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and things.
>
>We will probably find our EC meeting time available at plenaries to be a
>tight squeeze. However, our attempts to do teleconferences on specific
>topics (e.g. meetings and rules) have not been successful at getting
>critical mass attendance. EC topic meetings Sunday evening and during
>the week also find this a challenge.
>
>We can have the topic meetings but there is a large chance of getting to
>the EC meeting and finding out those who didn't attend disagree.
>
>I think there are two viable options:
>What we are doing right now - spill over the leftovers to email
>discussion and vote where at least we are getting good participation
>even if we sometimes get a little testy with each other and sometimes
>have to grope around on how to handle equivalents of the parliamentary
>procedures we would do during a meeting.
>
>All agree to a fixed time and day before the meeting when we would have
>regular "virtual" EC meeting over phone and meeting software (e.g.
>MeetingPlace) with a similar commitment to showing up to be part of the
>quorum as we have during the opening and closing EC meetings. I expect
>Tony will point out that this would be difficult to schedule
>conveniently for EC members outside North American time zones. Also
>openness issues would have to be addressed and we would need a rules
>change to do this.
>
>I think the first tool is adequate for most of what we have and we are
>still learning to use it well. I suggest sticking with email for now.
>
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