Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...

[Pat Thaler <pat_thaler@AGILENT.COM>]

The escapee from the courthouse was an unusual event. I don't count that against Atlanta. Any place could have a temporary dangerous situation. In any case, it was also a fairly low probability of endangering any of us (other than being hit by a speeding police car).

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, 26 July, 2005 12:14 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...

I personally was attending a pre-IEEE meeting on Friday before the IEEE
meeting.  In walking to the other hotel where the meeting was held I was
a few blocks from where the shooting was when the guy escaped.  We saw
the police drive by at about 70 mph with their lights flashing. So I did
not consider it the safest place.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:00 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
Proposal+++ends 29 J...

Buzz,

I thought Atlanta was a fine venue. I appreciate downtown venues like
Atlanta for the easy access to restaurants for dinners and quick
lunches. I didn't poll anyone but I didn't hear any complaints on the
area and I felt safe enough in the area. I've been there in the past for
InterOps and I've never had a problem even walking and using the subway
(which seems to have a fair amount of security staff) after dark. I
doubt there is a significant crime difference between Atlanta and San
Francisco - and at least it is less grim than downtown Albuquerque at
night.

Also, Atlanta helps to balance out our locations which are a bit light
on East Coast venues. 

I found Airport transportation pretty easy since it is a straight shot
on the subway.

Regards,
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM] 
Sent: Monday, 25 July, 2005 4:10 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
Proposal+++ends 29 J...

Thanx Jerry,    I appreciate your input.  Could you please tell me how
many members were voting on that meeting site poll on Atlanta ???  
 
Where I recognize it may not be anyone's favorite return site, I think
Atlanta still represents an exceptional value site that may then allow
us to return to other favorite venues for an average cost that is still
acceptable overall.  A lot of our guys ARE on fairly tight travel
budgets these days so we need some value locations.  Typically those
offer lower prices for some reason.  I saw no safety issue in Atlanta,
any more than in any large Metropolitan Area.  They just went to the
bother of putting out an advisory to visitors message because they are
trying to indicate their sincere effort to eradicate a prior problem.
We had no reports of any incidents, and mostly got compliments for the
courteousness of the downtown escort service.  
 
Safety would not be my first concern for Atlanta, but transportation to
and from the airport might be my number one.  I thought the downtown
location had more than enough good restaurant and night life options
nearby to keep most folks happy all week.  

Thanx,  Buzz 
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee 
Boeing - SSG 
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM 
Seattle, WA  98124-2207 
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721 
Cell: (425) 417-1022 
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Jerry1upton@aol.com [mailto:Jerry1upton@aol.com] 
	Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:21 PM
	To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
	Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The
Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 J...
	
	
	Buzz,
	I recognize there are few locations that we can fit into for a
Plenary. I also recognize that we are offered very good financial terms.
	 
	However, I usually check with my members after a Plenary and ask
whether they would want to return to the location. Though we did vote a
motion on Atlanta after the last Plenary, virtually no member who
attended Atlanta would rank this location as a desired return location.
One main point is that the downtown area is not viewed as safe. I would
not personally book another meeting in downtown Atlanta for other
organizations that I manage or vote venues. I did manage a meeting last
year in the Westin in downtown Atlanta for another organization and the
view of the attendees was not to return.
	 
	Therefore, I vote No.
	Regards,
	Jerry Upton
	 
	In a message dated 7/23/2005 1:07:09 PM Central Standard Time,
everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM writes:


		Paul,  We are actually balloting a same deal repeat for
Nov. 2011 as well.  
		
		Please vote for each independently as indicated on the
motion.  
		
		The first file is the terms of the deal; the second is
the motion.  
		
		Thanx for your cooperation.  
		
		Thanx,  Buzz
		Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
		Boeing - SSG
		PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
		Seattle, WA  98124-2207
		(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
		Cell: (425) 417-1022
		everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
		
		
		
		-----Original Message-----
		From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET] 
		Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:46 AM
		To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
		Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The
Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005
		
		
		Dear EC Members,
		
		This is a email ballot to make a determination on the
below motion.
		
		Motion: "To approve the attached motion (finalize
contract arrangements with 
		Hyatt Regency Atlanta) for Nov 2009).
		
		Moved: Rigsbee
		Second: Hawkins
		
		The ballot opens noon PT Saturday 23 July 2005 and
closes Friday 29 July 
		2005.
		
		Regards,
		
		--Paul Nikolich
		
		
		----- Original Message ----- 
		From: "Rigsbee, Everett O"
<everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>
		To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
		Cc: <jhawkins@nortel.com>; <dawns@facetoface-events.com>
		Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:37 PM
		Subject: The Atlanta Proposal for EC Ballot
		
		
		
		Paul,  Here's is the material from the Atlanta Proposal
to be balloted and 
		closed by 30 July 2005.  The first file is the
information on the deal(s). 
		The second is the motions to approve for Nov. 2009 and
for Nov. 2011.
		
		
		Thanx,  Buzz
		Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
		Boeing - SSG
		PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
		Seattle, WA  98124-2207
		(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
		Cell: (425) 417-1022
		everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
		
		
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