Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005

["Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>]

Buzz,

	I agree with Bob in terms of planning.  I do not see why we are
planning 6 years in advance. It would seem that two to three years in
advance would be more than sufficient.  What am I missing here?

	Also, I suggest we find some other way of reviewing these
locations than at the closing EC meeting on Friday.  I would suggest a
conference call at some point to discuss our options, prior to the
plenary session.  My opinion is that at the closing EC meeting we should
already have had that discussion and the vote should be more of a
formality.  We don't have time to really have that discussion on Friday
at 6 PM.

Regards,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:45 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005

Colleagues:

I am concerned about how far out these meetings are.  I looked back the
same period as these contracts are looking forward  (4 and 6 years).  In
July 2001 we had 1019 attendees, and in July 1999 we only had 469. 

My crystal ball isn't that good (I sure didn't project the dramatic
attendance growth from 1999 to 2001), and don't even expect the growth
of the last four years to continue at the same pace, but I do remember
November 2001 being held captive in the Austin convention center because
of a tornado in the area, people stealing a trash bag out of the janitor
closet to make a poncho, and then walking through torential rain back to
the overflow hotel whether other 802.3 meetings were being held.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Hyatt Regency Atlanta couldn't hold us in
four years.  In six years who knows how big we will be, we might even
have figured out how to transition to entity balloting and be back to a
few hundred attendees ;-).

I'll reluctantly vote in favor of 2009, but vote against 2011.

--Bob Grow

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET] 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:46 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ Motion on The Atlanta
Proposal+++ends 29 July 2005

Dear EC Members,

This is a email ballot to make a determination on the below motion.

Motion: "To approve the attached motion (finalize contract arrangements
with 
Hyatt Regency Atlanta) for Nov 2009).

Moved: Rigsbee
Second: Hawkins

The ballot opens noon PT Saturday 23 July 2005 and closes Friday 29 July

2005.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>
To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
Cc: <jhawkins@nortel.com>; <dawns@facetoface-events.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:37 PM
Subject: The Atlanta Proposal for EC Ballot



Paul,  Here's is the material from the Atlanta Proposal to be balloted
and 
closed by 30 July 2005.  The first file is the information on the
deal(s). 
The second is the motions to approve for Nov. 2009 and for Nov. 2011.


Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com


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