Re: [802SEC] Status on P&P Revisions / Agenda for Sunday Night 'Rules' meeting
I am inclined to disagree with Tony (and Geoff) in that I think RR should
remain in our precedence list.
I would be OK with "shall" being replaced with "should" or "may" ... "be
used."
I think that without RR to guide the parliamentary procedures any
contentious meeting/issues will only be more so.
At least RR gives everyone (not the least of which being the Chair) a set of
procedural rules which is widely accepted and generally considered fair.
Carl
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> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
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> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Status on P&P Revisions / Agenda for
> Sunday Night 'Rules' meeting
>
> Mat -
>
> I note that in the "miscellaneous issues", Roberts Rules have
> been removed from the precedence list (which I like), but
> that clause 13 still uses the "shall" word with regard to
> their use (which I don't like). In other words, the text
> still doesn't reflect the spirit of Geoff's comment on RR,
> which I supported, that the status of RR should be advisory
> rather than mandatory in our P&P.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
> At 04:48 11/07/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
> >Folks,
> >
> >
> >
> >We've held 4 two hours P&P Revision telecon's but we just
> aren't there
> >yet. Aside from the fact that we have not discussed all the
> comments,
> >the telecon's have often been lightly attended, and I
> question if the
> >current resolutions represent the desires of the EC as a whole.
> >
> >
> >
> >I have attached the current resolutions and comments for all four of
> >the ballots I'm running to this e-mail. (I've combined parts
> 1 and 2 of
> >the 'miscellaneous issues' ballot into one file). The voting status
> >and comments are at the ends of each of the files which also include
> >recommended resolutions to date. The original ballot changes are
> >highlighted in yellow. Recommended comment resolutions are
> highlighted
> >in green. I have indicated in the attached files which
> comments have
> >been considered and which have not.
> >
> >
> >
> >Please review the attached files. If you object to any of
> the proposed
> >resolutions in green please let me know prior to the Sunday
> session so
> >they can be reconsidered. If you have comments that have
> not already
> >been made please send them to the reflector. Monday I will take a
> >straw poll on each ballot to see where things stand. It is REALLY
> >important that I have as full a participation as possible on
> Sunday night!
> >Otherwise people won't know what the status is for the straw polls
> >Monday. I ask WG Chairs who cannot make the session to send a
> >representative if possible. I've also extended the hours of the
> >meeting. If you can only make part of it (particularly if
> there is a
> >particular issue you want to be present for) please let me
> know and I
> >will try to adjust the agenda to accommodate you.
> >
> >
> >
> >The currently planned agenda is provided below.
> >
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> >Mat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >P&P Revision Resolution meeting Agenda (6 PM- 10 PM 1/17/05)
> >
> >
> >
> >Review of Resolutions on 'LMSC Organization' ballot
> >
> >Complete comment resolution on 'LMSC Procedures and Process' ballot
> >
> >Complete comment resolution on 'Miscellaneous Issues' ballot
> >
> >Complete comment resolution on 'WG Membership and Meetings' ballot
> >
> >Other P&P related issues from floor
> >
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> >
> >Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> >Senior Member Technical Staff
> >BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> >Office: +1 973.633.6344
> >email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> >
> >
> >
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> Regards,
> Tony
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