Re: [802SEC] Tentative tally: P&P Revision Ballot - Clause 7.5 - Balloting Groups
Colleagues-
Though I do not have a vote I would concur with the addition of text as
asked for by Bob Grow. I would further ask that the text be beefed up
from:
- 3. LMSC projects are balloted by individuals. No LMSC PAR
may be submitted to NesCom specifying any other method of sponsor
balloting unless approved in advance by the EC.
To:
- 3. LMSC projects are balloted by individuals. No LMSC PAR
may be submitted to NesCom specifying any other method of sponsor
balloting unless approved in advance by a specific vote of the EC taken
in session at an 802 plenary.
Rationale:
I think that putting a PAR forward on other than an individual basis is a
sufficiently serious matter that it should not be done by a mail ballot
of the EC. It should only happen after the matter has been thoroughly
vetted in the several Working Groups at an 802 plenary with the resulting
vote taking place at the closing EC meeting. (I trust the process enough
to believe that if it came up on Monday that it would get tabled until
Friday.)
Thank you for your consideration.
Geoff
At 01:37 PM 4/13/2005 -0600, Pat Thaler wrote:
I can approve with the changes Bob suggests.
Otherwise I would have to disapprove.
The IEEE-SA rules and proceedures for ballot group formation have shifted
over time. I wouldn't want to have to track future changes in our rules.
We should therefore include their process by reference rather than
attempting to describe it.
Regards,
Pat
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Tentative tally: P&P Revision Ballot - Clause
7.5
- Balloting Groups
In hindsight, I hit send too quickly. I probably deleted some
worthwhile information from 7.5 while focusing too much on the
individual balloting issue. A complete 7.5 would read (with a
slight
modification to my previous recommended text):
7.5 Balloting Group for Sponsor balots
All members of the Sponsor Balloting Groups shall meet the
requirements
of IEEE-SA for participation. Any inclusion of invited experts
shall be
approved by the EC in addition to any approvals required by
IEEE-SA.
The type of balloting of the invitation to Sponsor Ballot shall be
consistent with the approved PAR for the project.
My recommended changes to 17 remains the same, inserting a numbered
item
3:
3. LMSC projects are balloted by individuals. No LMSC PAR may
be
submitted to NesCom specifying any other method of sponsor
balloting
unless approved in advance by the EC.
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On Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:48 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] Tentative tally: P&P Revision Ballot - Clause 7.5
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Balloting Groups
Tentative tally:
Vote categories:
DIS DNV APP
ABS
-------------------------------------------------
01 Mat
Sherman
DNV
02 Pat
Thaler
DNV
03 Buzz
Rigsbee
DNV
04 Bob
O'Hara
DNV
05 John
Hawkins
DNV
06 Tony
Jeffree
APP
07 Bob
Grow
DNV
08 Stuart
Kerry
DNV
09 Bob
Heile
DNV
10 Roger
Marks
DNV
11 Mike
Takefman
DNV
12 Mike
Lynch
DNV
13 Steve
Shellhammer
DNV
14 Jerry
Upton
DNV
15 Ajay
Rajkumar
DNV
16 Carl
Stevenson
DNV
17 Paul
Nikolich DIS
---++++---+++++---++++---
TOTALS
DIS DNV APP
ABS
-16-
total: -01- -15- -01-
-00-
===========================================
As per the motion passed in the closing EC meeting last Friday,
find
attached the P&P revision ballot for the existing text of Clause 7.5
to
clarify the membership requirements for Sponsor balloting groups.
This ballot closes on 21st April 2005.
Regards,
Tony
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