Re: [802SEC] Term limits and hibernating groups
John -
A very clear summary - and I agree with your conclusions.
Regards,
Tony
At 23:53 15/02/2005, John Lemon wrote:
>Pat, et al,
>
>I strongly concur with others who have pointed out the reasons not to have
>any specified term limits, which I would like to summarize here:
>A) The IEEE SA exists to produce standards, in the best possible manner,
>not to provide leadership opportunities.
>B) If the intent of term limits is to remove someone from office who is
>not in the best interest of the standards process, this is an extremely
>poor way to deal with that.
>C) There does not appear to be any logical reason to apply this to WG
>chairs and no other officers of the EC or other officers of the WGs.
>D) It would incapacitate some hibernating groups.
>
>Assuming we can agree with the above (and I would be really curious to
>hear from anyone who does not agree with the above as to why they do not
>agree), then clearly two action are needed:
>1) Eliminate the term limit text.
>2) Institute a process that addresses the removal of those officers that
>are felt to be not operating in the best interest of the standards process.
>
>Clearly we should take the first action now.
>
>With regards to the second action, we already have a process today whereby
>we can vote out (most or all?) EC and WG officers at any time. If this is
>felt to be too limiting, we could institute a no confidence procedure. For
>example, we could state that a no confidence measure passing by a simple
>majority, a super majority (say, of 2/3), or consensus (75%) would force a
>new election or appointment for that officer's position. Adoption of any
>process in addition to our current methods of ousting someone should be
>done only with careful thought and examination of the repercussions.
>
>jl
>
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>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:40 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: [802SEC] Term limits and hibernating groups
>
>
>So far I haven't seen any response to my comment about term limits and
>hibernating groups. I don't think term limits should apply to the chair of
>a hibernating group - a non-voting position on the Exec.
>
>Regards,
>Pat
>
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Regards,
Tony
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