Re: [802SEC] Telecom messenger client choice
Comments on the three proposed meeting tools:
NetMeeting: Wonderful program, but with 3 significant limitations.
1. It runs on only one operating system.
2. It requires all participants to be able to share a common LDAP directory so that all are known to each other.
3. I think it requires firewalls to be set up to allow it since I don't think it uses a relay.
MSN Messenger: Pretty much the same as the other IM clients, but with one significant limitation:
1. It runs on only two operating systems.
Yahoo Messenger: Pretty much the same as the other IM clients, with no known significant limitations.
1. Runs on Windows, Mac OS, and many versions of Linux and Unix (except for Solaris).
Based on the above, I would suggest that Yahoo Messenger is the preferred choice.
With regards to styled text, I can't figure out how to paste styled text into YM, but I can style the text after pasting it (font, size, color, bold, underline, italic).
John Lemon
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
Behalf Of Mike Takefman
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:20 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom Notice
+++++++++++++
Matt,
I don't know how well the clients deal with text that is coloured
that is cut and pasted, but I'll try some experiments. In
our case, we do have the docs that have been distributed and
what we tend to share is final versions of text without colours
or any extraneous cross-outs etc. I find that easier to read
personally.
Pat,
I'm willing to try anything, although when you used netmeeting
did you call out or did someone call in? We certainly use it
internal to cisco.
That being said, if I am on the Cisco wireless network, my IP address
is a local one (10.X.Y.Z) so no one can call me, but I believe I can
call outside.
Therefore, if someone has a global address, they can try
hosting the meeting and others could dial into them.
mike
Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
> Mike / All,
>
> I'm appreciating the dialogue. One concern I have is that we are often
> dealing with multi-colored text. It would be nice to share actual
> documents. Do the text services you mention allow formatted text?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mat
>
> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> Senior Member Technical Staff
> BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
> On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:17 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom Notice
> +++++++++++++
>
> I don't care what the client is. The advantage of Messenger (either
> yahoo or msn) is that it is relayed. Netmeeting requires that we
> know the IP address of everyone in the call, and many corporate
> firewalls would make that impossible.
>
> mike
>
> Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
>
>>While I see value in Mike's proposal, I would prefer to use MS
>
> Messenger or
>
>>Netmeeting, rather than anything hosted through Yahoo ...
>>
>>1) I don't want to have to install yet another IM client
>>2) I have heard reports of onerously prying cookies, etc.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:00 PM
>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom
>>>Notice +++++++++++++
>>>
>>>Mat,
>>>
>>>while I have no objection to continuing to persue P&P
>>>resolution via teleconference I recognize the difficulty in
>>>scheduling around all of the participants schedules and I
>>>hope we can find a reasonable common time.
>>>
>>>I would personally like to see 1 major change to the methodology.
>>>
>>>When .17 has teleconference calls, we use Yahoo Messenger to
>>>create a text conference room for all participants. This
>>>allows the moderator or commenter to cut and paste their
>>>proposed text for all to see. We are able to achieve
>>>concensus on word smithing issues far quicker since people
>>>can actually read the proposed text.
>>>
>>>In the case of a poor bridge, IM also allows, a method for a
>>>participant to object or request the floor. Some bridges I've
>>>been on (with many participants) do not mix the signals well
>>>and tend to give the "loudest" speaker the floor, drowning
>>>out other voices.
>>>
>>>Yahoo Messenger is free, and most (but not all) corporations
>>>allow it to pass through their firewalls. All that is
>>>required is that the moderator have all of the participants
>>>on his contact list so that he/she can create the conference
>>>room and add people as they arrive.
>>>
>>>cheers,
>>>
>>>mike
>>
>>
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