Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ EC_Membership_&

On 7.1.2.1 I agree with Bob O's comment that most of the items in the qualification list are features of the office, not qualifications for the position. All of the items are already covered by the text above (some are covered by the statement that confirmation and reconfirmation are the same as for other appointed positions but the term should perhaps be Reaffirmation or Affirmation because that is the term in 7.1.3 (see comment on 7.1.3).

7.1.7.1 I'm concerned that this provision moves us from the frying pan to the fire. "In cases of questions of the validity of an election" is vague or overly broad. Can a mere raising of a question by anyone bring this provision into force? That allows too much opening for a minority to raise havoc. This rule should only be added if we can accompany it with some standard for judging an election in doubt. For example, one might state that for this provision to take effect they executive committee must receive a written complaint detailing the flaws in the election and must have a majority vote on whether the complaint is substantive enough to justify the action. Perhaps the setting aside of election results should require a supermajority (2/3) of the executive committee (because it seems likely that the flaws should be very clear cut and substantive to justify the action of setting aside a vote).

The last sentence doesn't seem to fit the rest of the text. The prior text doesn't mention confirmation and already specifies who should fill the position. Perhaps it should be: If there is no person in the succession available to serve, the position may be left vacant ....

7.1.3 This section uses the term reaffirmation, but 7.1.2 used "confirmation" We should normalize to use either affirmation/reaffirmation or confirmation/reconfirmation but not both.

7.1.5.2 Something is missing. There needs to be a statement of who can call such a meeting. I think it should be the same as for calling an email motion: the chair or the chair's designee (normally a vice-chair).

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From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ EC_Membership_&_Meetings

Dear EC members,

This ballot closes on Tuesday one minute before the stroke of midnight (EST)! Below you will see the current status of the ballot. So far I have received response and comment from one voting member (Paul). I have received comment from non-voting members which are included in the comment section. Please take some time to review this ballot, comment, and vote. I will be conducting comment resolution on Friday. As a reminder the scope of the ballot is as follows:

      EC Meetings between Plenaries (telecoms, etc.)

      Terms of appointed EC positions and removal if new EC chair

      Procedures for elections and election appeals

      Member Emeritus position

If you are dissatisfied with how we currently conduct business in any of these areas, now is the time to voice your opinion! Please let me know if you see any errors in the accounting below.

Thanks & Regards,

Mat

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 12:17 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ EC_Membership_&_Meetings

Dear EC members,

Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on EC Membership and Meetings. This ballot was approved at the Friday November 19, 2004 EC meeting. The text is identical to that presented at the meeting. The purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached ballot document.

Ballot Duration: 12/5/2004 - 1/5/2004 @ 11:59 PM EST

WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your groups, and invite them to comment through you.

Thanks & Regards,

Mat

<<802.0-EC_Membership_&_Meetings-P&P_Revision_ballot.doc>>

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.

Senior Member Technical Staff

BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR

Office: +1 973.633.6344

email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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