Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting locations
agreed---
At 04:21 PM 12/16/2004 +0000, Tony Jeffree wrote:
Bob -
How about we change "consider holding" to "hold" in
that second sentence? We've *considered* holding overseas plenary
meetings for many years - what we need is the commitment to actually do
it.
Regards,
Tony
At 15:46 16/12/2004, Bob Heile wrote:
All the wireless groups already
hold a non North America interim meeting at least once a year. 802 should
consider holding a non North America plenary at least once a
year.
At 08:13 AM 12/15/2004 -0500, Mike Takefman wrote:
Fellow EC Members,
I seem to recall that there was a proposed solution to this
issue (which I believe came from Matt originally, and agreed
to in principle at our all-802 hosted Interim in Vancouver
a year or so ago).
Lets hold one 802-sponsored all-WG interim session each year
outside of North America.
This gives us flexibility to get it done before 2009 or whenever
there are free plenary slots.
cheers,
mike
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
I support Mat's proposal. We
need to do this, even if it "costs" more
and I think we need to think in terms of the costs to our non-US
participants who have been footing the bill for travel cost (and
time)
here for the meetings.
Carl
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*On Behalf Of
*Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:05 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting
locations
Guys,
I?ve been pushing to have more international locations
for at least
8 months now. The biggest issue I?ve heard is
costs. I really
don?t want to hear that issue any more. I think
there is a cost
associated with being an ?International? standards
organization, and
we have to face it. I voted against some
locations at the last
meeting partly because no international options were
presented. In
fact, only one option was presented for each session
location. I
don?t think this is acceptable, and I don?t think we
should even
consider voting on the location of a session unless
multiple options
are available. Further I think at least one
international option
per session should be presented before we vote to
approve a session
location. I?d also like to see us insist on one
international
plenary a year. I recognize this will raise
costs, and add
complexity, but I think it is part of the cost of
being an
international standards body, and we have to face
it.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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*On Behalf Of *Stuart
Kerry
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:24 PM
*To:* STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
*Subject:* [802SEC] FW: Plenary Meeting
locations
802 ExCom Members,
I am forwarding the attached email to you all from a
member of my
Working Group (Bruce Kraemer), who raises genuine
concerns over the
locations of future 802 Plenary sessions. He has
addressed an issue
that has been raised that is dear to my heart in
connection with our
recent ISO effort, which respect to our work as an
International
body, and therefore I offer this to you in support,
for your
comments and views.
I also ask that you add Bruce to your email replies as
he is not on
the ExCom reflector.
/ Stuart
_______________________________
Stuart J. Kerry
Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG
Philips Semiconductors, Inc.
1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,
San Jose, CA 95131-1706,
United States of America.
Ph : +1 (408) 474-7356
Fax: +1 (408) 474-5343
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eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com
<mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com>
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*From:* Bruce Kraemer
[mailto:bruce.kraemer@conexant.com]
*Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:10 AM
*To:* p.nikolich@ieee.org
*Cc:* jesse.walker@intel.com;
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com;
owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org; Stuart
Kerry
*Subject:* Plenary Meeting locations
Dear SEC,
1. I was checking meeting dates and
noticed that all of the
upcoming 802
Plenaries are scheduled for US locations through
*2009! *(I include
Vancouver)
2. I also noted the following news
article last week from China
Tech News. While
highly biased it does illustrate my point.
*WAPI Proposal Finally Acknowledged By International
Organization*
December 9, 2004
*After many ups and downs, the Chinese-sponsored WAPI
(Wireless LAN
Authentication and Privacy Infrastructure) standard
has seen a new
twist--it has finally been acknowledged by the
International
Standardization Organization during the ISO/IEC JTC1
SC6 session. *
WAPI will be pushed within ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 along with
America's
IEEE 802.11i, and WAPI will be put on the agenda of
the SC 6 WG1
meeting scheduled for February 2005.
Local reports say that the Chinese delegation
successfully made
their bid by forcing the US side to issue a statement
that both WAPI
and 802.11i can be deployed together.
3. Although the IEEE 802 may wish to
call itself an
inter-national
standards body it has been pointed out many
times that such a
view is not universally held. 802 needs to
seriously consider
changing meeting venues as one means to
back up the
rhetoric. The individual working groups have been
more proactive in
distributing their meeting locations which
obviously helps
but is not sufficient. Please consider
including
inter-national 802 plenary locations as soon as
possible.
Regards,
Bruce Kraemer
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Tony
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