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802 ExCom members, Further to my previous email to you, and for
completeness I have attached the actual online NesCom submitted P802.11u and
P802.11v PAR forms in PDF format for you to enable you to see that the correct latest
IEEE-SA forms were used. / Stuart _______________________________ Stuart J.
Kerry Chair, IEEE
802.11 WLANs WG Philips
Semiconductors, Inc. Ph : +1 (408)
474-7356 Fax: +1 (408)
474-5343 Cell: +1 (408)
348-3171 eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com _______________________________ From: Stuart Kerry 802 ExCom members, I am writing to
notify you of two 802.11 PARs that arose out of the Working Group's September
2004 Berlin Interim session. The WG chair had clarified a quorum was present,
by confirming that there were 216 voters present at the session out of the 411
total 802.11 voting membership:
The documentation for both of
these PARs and their relevant 5 Criteria are available on the 802.11 web page
at the URL below: www.ieee802.org/11/PARs/index.html#Pending ·
P802.11u:
Wireless InterWorking with External Networks (amendment to 802.11) ·
Study Group Vote: passes
15:1:0 (94% for)
·
WG
Vote: passes 62 : 3 : 32 (95% for)
·
Stephen
McCann is accepted by acclamation by the WG as Chair of TGu.
·
P802.11v:
Wireless Network Management (amendment to 802.11) ·
Study Group Vote: passes
14:1:1
·
Due to
corruption of the document on the session server at the time of the main vote
to approve, the WG Voted to start a WG LB (#72) for approval of the PAR & 5
Criteria: This action passed 73 : 2 : 4 – LB# 72 began
October 1 and closes on Sunday, November 7, 2004 before the opening of the
November 2004 Plenary session. In consultation with the 802 Chair on the closing
of this WG LB vote result to approve P802.11v being before the start of the
next session, and abiding by the 30-day rule, it was felt that we should
present this PAR & 5 Criteria for your consideration. Background
information is presented below. ·
The
TGu Chair is to be confirmed at the November session.
Background
Information: The WNM Study
Group passed the following motion as taken from the study group minutes
(11-04-1056-02-0wnm-wmn-september-2004-interim-minutes.doc): Move to adopt document 11-04-0537-07-0wnm-WNM Draft PAR and
documented 11-04-0684-01-0wnm-draft-5-criteria-wireless-network-management.doc
and forward them to the 802.11 Working Group for approval to start a Task
Group. Moved by
Richard Paine Seconded by Joe
Kwak For: 14
Against: 1 Abstain: 1 Motion Passes As can bee
seen, the motion that passed was for document 537r7 and the posted document is
537r8. During the interim session, document 537r7 was a completed copy of the
web form of the IEEE PAR which was used as a template in Microsoft Word. That
document became corrupted when it was uploaded to the document server and was
unusable by the membership at the final plenary meeting of the interim session
and, by the 802.11 Policies and Procedures for the 4 hour rule, could not be
voted on during that plenary. Document 537r8 is the exact document that was
voted on in the WNM-SG session and final Working Group Plenary with the
exception that the document has been repaired so that all macros and formatting
that caused the 537r7 document to be corrupted were removed. The following
motion was presented at the final plenary session as taken from the 802.11
closing plenary minutes: Move to request the 802.11 WG chair to start a 40 day WG letter
ballot for the purpose of approving the WNM SG PAR and 5 Criteria and move the
forward to the 802 SEC to start a Task Group ·
Move Harry Worstell ·
Second Al Petrick ·
Discussion o
The CGI-based web form for PAR has
caused major problems. Request the WG to formally protest to IEEE and request
that PARs are submitted and reviewed in Word DOC format. o
Does it have to be 40 days? The WG
states it does. o
Can we add document numbers to the
motion? No objections. o
Will there be an opportunity to
make comments? Yes, this is a WG LB. Comments on the question are in order. o
Will there be comment resolution
in November? o
At the end of July, the PAR and 5C
were brought forward and discussed. Why didn’t that get completed. The WNM
formally withdrew the PAR and 5C at that time. He wanted to have a meeting
where it could be discussed, rather than wordsmithing via a letter ballot
process. o
Suggests that a letter to the
reflector would notify the body if a motion was withdrawn. The WG chair notes
the comment. o
In this situation where the PAR is
very difficult to manipulate, can we have separate motions? We have always
treated them as one package. §
Motion as modified: §
Move
to request the 802.11 WG chair to start a 40 day WG letter ballot for the
purpose of approving the WNM SG PAR (11-04-0537-r7) and 5 Criteria
(11-04-0068r1) and move the forward to the 802 SEC to start a Task Group ·
Discussion o
How will comment resolutions be
handled? o
The WNM chair requests withdrawing
the motion ·
Discussion o
Why are we not voting on this
document. It has been on the server for 4 hours. It is not corrupted. o
Some members had problems opening
the document. o
The WG chair follows the request
of the WNM Chair and asks to withdraw the motion. o
There is no need to delay –
comments can be resolved in November, and results re-approved in November. o
There is no requirement that any
comment be address on this email ballot. This email ballot is to substitute to
discuss and debate this motion today. If the motion passes, it passes. o
If the comments come in, they will
be duly noted, but there is no need to formally resolve. Any members with
objections should post to the reflector during the letter ballot process. This
is not a draft. It is just asking the group a question like it was done in a
meeting. o
Given there is an opportunity to
submit comments, it would be polite to answer them. o
As we are more dependant on
electronics, problems like this will occur. If we can certify that the
procedure has been followed with good faith, we should make an exception to the
4 hour rule. o
The WG chair respects the advice
of the 802 parliamentarian. o
The WG chair notes that he will
lodge a formal protest of the problems with the IEEE PAR process. ·
Any objection to call the
question? None ·
Vote: Motion passes 73: 2 : 4 ·
Harry Worstell notes that he is
not a candidate for chair of TGv. No other nominations have been accepted by
acclamation yet. The Chair is to be confirmed at the November session. The Letter Ballot
for this motion is Letter Ballot #72 that began October 1 and closes on
November 7, 2004. 802.11 intends to request
forwarding the two PARs to NesCom at the close of the November EC meeting and
will be pre-submitting them to NesCom. Should a request to forward be denied,
the appropriate item will be pulled from NesCom's agenda. Regards, Stuart _______________________________ Stuart J. Kerry Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG Philips
Semiconductors, Inc. 1109 McKay
Drive, M/S 48A SJ, San Jose, CA 95131-1706, United States
of America. Ph : +1 (408) 474-7356 Fax: +1 (408) 474-5343 Cell: +1 (408) 348-3171 eMail: stuart.kerry@philips.com _______________________________ |
802.11v Project Authorization Request (PAR) Form.pdf
802.11u Project Authorization Request (PAR) Form.pdf