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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 10 SEPT+++authorization of PressRelease on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance)project+++Tentative Tally



Approve
 

Matthew Sherman, PhD
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

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From: owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:58 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 10 SEPT+++authorization of PressRelease on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance)project+++Tentative Tally

Dear EC members,

The below email ballot closes 2PMedt 10Sept 2004.  Please note the text of the PR has changed per the friendly ammendments offered by Bob Grow and Bob O'Hara and were accepted by the mover/seconder.  See the attached document for the text as ammended.
 
The tentative tally for the below motion is
09 Approve
01 Disapprove
05 Did Not Vote
00 Abstains
 
Please verify your vote, if I did not record it correctly below, send me a correction note.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich


Vote categories:          DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
  -----------------------------------------------
  01 Mat Sherman=                DNV
  02 Howard Frazier=             DNV
  03 Buzz Rigsbee=               DNV
  04 Bob O'Hara.                         APP
  05 John Hawkins.                       APP
  06 Tony Jeffree.                       APP
  07 Bob Grow.            DIS/comments
  08 Stuart Kerry.                       APP
  09 Bob Heile=                  DNV
  10 Roger Marks=                DNV
  11 Mike Takefman.                      APP
  12 Carl Stevenson.                     APP
  13 Steve Shellhammer.                  APP
  14 Jerry Upton.                        APP
  15 Ajay Rajkumar.                      APP
                          ---++++---+++++---++++---
  TOTALS                  DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
                   total: -01-   -05-    -09-   -00-
 
Bob Grow comments:
Disapprove
 
1.  The release confuses clear IEEE 802 branding.  It should not include any abbreviations that will confuse our standards customers between organizational groups and standards projects.  I find "task group 802.11T" and "IEEE 802.11t Task Group" as confusing.  While some of us identify our subgroups with the project name, I don't believe that is the case here.  The project is P802.11.2 and the group driving the project is IEEE 802.11 TG-T (or pick some other abbreviation that isn't like the name of a project).
 
2.  Inconsistent placement of "P".  Early on, it is properly located (IEEE P802.11.2) but toward the end it is improperly located (PIEEE 802.11.2).  Correct the instances of the latter.
 
3.  I believe the circle R is improperly used near the bottom of the release.  The committee is not a product, it is a group of people and registration marks are only applied to products. I note that marks are not applied to IEEE Computer Society and IEEE Standards Associations, we are no different!
 
Bob O'Hara comments:
Disapprove.
 
I support all of Bob Grow's comments on what is wrong with this press release, except for the use of 802.11t as the task group name.  The occurrence of "802.11T" should be replaced with "802.11t".  I also agree with the comment made by Carl Stevenson, as well, striking out specific text.
 
 -Bob
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC Email Ballot+++ENDS 3 SEPT+++authorization of Press Release on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project

Dear EC members,
 
This is a 10 day EC email ballot on the following motion:
 
Motion: Approve the attached press release on the approval of the 802.11.2 PAR for distribution.
Moved: Carl Stevenson
Second: Mat Sherman
 
The ballot duration will be 10 days.  It opens 2pm edt 24 August and closes 2pm edt 3 September.
 
Regards,
 
--Paul Nikolich
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevenson, Carl R (Carl)" <carlstevenson@AGERE.COM>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] mover/second for EC ballot on Press Release on approval of 802.11.2 (evaluation of 802.11 wless performance) project

Paul,

I will make the motion if the deletion marked by "strikeout" in the
attached version is adopted.

I think the "and inherently unstable" language could give an unfavorable
impression in the press that would not be good for 802.11.

I think it's sufficient to say "dynamic" and leave it at that.

Regards,
Carl


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