Re: [802SEC] Fwd: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval, motionrequest
Bill,
Now that you mention it, I recall voting against that
motion for the very reason that my company can certainly
afford to pay for my dinner, and the 802 attendees
should not have to. Although I do want them to pay
for my cookies at the SEC closing meeting!
I am more than happy to deal with the cost of my meal
and also have no issue with paying for our guest's
meals out of the 802 treasury.
mike
Bill Quackenbush wrote:
> Not taking a position either way, I would simply note that the SEC
> bought dinner for itself and the IEEE-SA BoG at the July 02 session in Vancouver.
>
> wlq
>
> Tony Jeffree wrote:
>
>>I will be joining Roger in disapproving such a motion if anyone makes it in
>>its current form. I think it is somewhat unbecoming for the SEC to vote to
>>buy itself $1500 worth of dinner out of the fees paid by the 802 membership.
>>
>>I would be happy to vote in favour of a motion to cover the cost of
>>providing dinner for our guests out of SEC funds, and, like Roger, would be
>>happy to pay my own share.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Tony
>>
>>At 10:44 14/07/2003 -0600, Roger B. Marks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I will be voting Disapprove on such a motion. If the motion fails, I will
>>>be happy to personally cover my share (including my share of the costs for
>>>all the invited guests).
>>>
>>>And, by the way, who is the sixth panelist? We first heard Paul Nikolich,
>>>Geoff Thompson, and Bob Metcalfe. Last week, the names Ron Crane and David
>>>Boggs leaked out.
>>>
>>>Roger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Geoff,
>>>>
>>>>Since a 10 day email ballot wouldn't close until after the start of next
>>>>week's plenary session, I suggest the SEC make a decision on the motion
>>>>during the opening SEC meeting during your 'tutorial' agenda item.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>--Paul
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Geoff Thompson" <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>
>>>>To: <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>>Cc: <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>; <billq@attglobal.net>;
>>>><stds-802-sec@ieee.org>; <DawnS@facetoface-events.com>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:35 AM
>>>>Subject: [802SEC] Fwd: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval, motion request
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Paul-
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to make the following SEC Motion to cover the costs of a
>>>>> dinner for the SEC and special guests to be held before the Ethernet 30
>>>>> Year Retrospective. The guest list will be the members of the SEC (plus
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>> Vice Chairs of 802.20), the six panel speakers, the officers of 802.3 plus
>>>>> the 2 former chairs, I would also like to include (per you suggestion) Jim
>>>>> Carlo (IEEE-SA President Elect) and Houlin Zhao (ITU-T Director of the
>>>>> Telecom Standards Bureau). The guest list totals 31. Face-to-Face
>>>>
>>>>estimated
>>>>
>>>>> $25-$30 per head. I will like a little wiggle room in the motion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Moved:
>>>>> That an amount not to exceed $1500 be authorized to cover the costs for a
>>>>> catered dinner at the meeting hotel for guests who will be speaking at the
>>>>> Ethernet Retrospective, the SEC, officers of 802.3, etc.
>>>>> Moved by: Geoff Thompson
>>>>> Second: Bill Quackenbush
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>
>>>>> >Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:53:13 -0700
>>>>> >From: Bill Quackenbush <billq@attglobal.net>
>>>>> >To: Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org>
>>>>> >CC: "Thompson, Geoff [SC100:321:EXCH]"<gthompso@americasm06.nt.com>
>>>>> >Subject: Re: Enet dinner--expense approval
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Yes it makes sense and it is required by our P&P as it is not a normal
>>>>> >plenary session expense. If Geoff would get the cost estimate from F2
>>>>> >F and make the motion, I will second it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >wlq
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Geoff,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Given all the scrutiny we are putting on financial openess, you (or
>>>>> > > Bill) should make a motion to have the expenses for the Enet dinner
>>>>
>>>> > > > approved at the opening EC meeting to make sure we are squeekey
>>>> > > > clean. Does this make sense to you?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --Paul
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > |=========================================|
>>>>
>>>>> | Geoffrey O. Thompson |
>>>>> | Vice Chair, IEEE 802 |
>>>>> | Nortel Networks, Inc. M/S: P79/06/B04 |
>>>>> | 4655 Great America Parkway |
>>>>> | P. O. Box 58185 |
>>>>> | Santa Clara, CA 95052-8185 USA |
>>>>
>>>> > | Phone: +1 408 495 1339 |
>>>> > | Fax: +1 408 495 5615 |
>>>> > | E-Mail: thompson@ieee.org |
>>>> > | Please see the IEEE 802 web page at |
>>>>
>>>>> | http://www.ieee802.org/
>>>>
>>Regards,
>>Tony
>
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